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07:26:45 summer must b approaching... 07:27:09 tathi yes :) 07:27:14 so nothnig happens here... 07:27:17 and much more on #java 07:27:34 there's one called bit-poet 07:27:44 and one changed nick to two-bit-poet 07:27:57 they didn't liked when i told very bad poets :) 07:28:02 * Juu is amused 07:32:52 http://www.adbusters.org/home/israel/ 07:45:12 --- quit: Juu ("MURR! end of file reached. continuing filling logs some other time.") 08:14:14 --- join: I440r (~mark4@1Cust30.tnt2.bloomington.in.da.uu.net) joined #forth 08:14:40 pyro hi :) 08:15:59 Hej I440r :) 08:16:18 rob:) 08:16:26 my father got a contract :) 08:16:30 Cool! 08:16:32 Where? 08:16:40 and he is now a fully lisenced manufacturer of firearms and ammunition 08:18:17 hi air :) 08:18:25 didnt notice you skulking there heh 08:18:43 Air does many things. 08:18:47 actually the contract is for a company BOTH of us have worked for in the past 08:18:50 OS coding, forth, killing... 08:19:14 does he code ? 08:19:14 *snicker* 08:19:58 smicker? 08:21:06 snicker = evil laff heh 08:21:13 Hehe 08:21:19 smicker = flattering :) 08:22:19 lol 08:42:33 I really don't want to be working today... :( 08:42:34 :) 08:47:00 tathi lol 08:47:05 i wish i had a job:P 08:47:32 :) 08:47:40 the gunsmithing thing doesn't count? 08:49:33 lol 08:49:39 not till i get PAID 08:49:41 then it counts 08:50:29 ah 08:52:23 I bought a windsurfer over the weekend and the weather was lousy so I didn't get to try it out 08:52:40 lol 08:52:51 whats a windsurfer ? 08:52:57 so of course _now_ it's windy and a beautiful day out there 08:53:00 sailboard 08:53:18 oooh rite 08:53:20 you do that ? 08:53:23 yup yup 08:53:27 cool 08:54:50 I'm not all that good at it, but it's still a hell of a lot of fun 09:06:52 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 09:11:45 --- join: GilbertBSD (~gilbert@max2-65.dacor.net) joined #forth 09:12:46 Hi. 09:12:57 Hej 09:15:06 Quang Po 09:15:48 Är grisvingar. 09:17:36 År grisvingar back at you. 09:17:52 * rob_ert är en flygande gris. 09:18:46 was ist ein ,flygande'? 09:19:07 und ,gris'? 09:19:35 "rob_ert is a flying pig" 09:20:16 so a grisvingar is a what? a dirty pig? 09:20:28 No 09:20:31 a pig with wings? 09:20:31 pig wings 09:20:34 Yes. 09:20:38 :) 09:20:44 How did i get that before you told me? 09:22:01 did you disappear? 09:22:25 did you flyganden off? 09:25:41 where are you robert? 09:27:46 Hm 09:27:52 I flew away. 09:28:08 grisvingar != pig with wings, btw 09:28:15 pig wings? 09:28:18 Yes. 09:28:28 a pig has no wings... 09:28:39 so a grisvingar has to be a pig with wings. 09:29:07 unless it refers to a mythological creature or something. 09:29:45 Hmm.. 09:29:46 No 09:30:03 Just see me as a non-existing object. 09:30:57 what does 'A^o mean? 09:31:15 It sounds like the german 'o' 09:31:33 Or the frenchie "au" 09:31:43 and it means what? 09:31:46 'I'? 09:32:11 Nej.. 09:32:24 An "å" alone means...uhmm...gotta look it up 09:32:26 by A^o do you mean Å? 09:32:30 yes 09:32:43 too lazy to retrieve the ascii for it. 09:33:02 for me it's alt+alt 0 A :-) 09:33:02 Å 09:33:08 Hmm 09:33:19 It's a small river 09:33:47 g4 196 emit 09:33:51 GilbertBSD: Ä 09:33:53 :D 09:33:58 Thank you gee four 09:34:03 Ä 09:34:46 gforth: : truth ." Swedish is THE language" ; ( tell the ) truth 09:34:49 rob_ert: Swedish is THE language 09:34:56 hahahah 09:35:53 g4 : truer ." Rob_ert sorry, as of this minute, Thai is THE language " ; ( this is ) truer 09:35:57 GilbertBSD: Rob_ert sorry, as of this minute, Thai is THE language 09:36:36 Bah. 09:37:04 gforth: : truth ." We both know GilbertBSD is a liar." ; ( tell the ultimate ) truth 09:37:07 rob_ert: We both know GilbertBSD is a liar. 09:37:12 hahahaha 09:37:13 :D 10:21:37 --- join: futhin (~thin@h24-64-175-61.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 10:21:51 Oy futhin 10:22:00 oy 10:22:19 hi 10:22:38 oy Moteno 10:22:55 i'm going to try to get a job in 1 1/2 hours :P 10:23:06 what job? 10:23:17 sweeping the yard? ;p 10:23:29 i'm going to a company that does custom programming, b2b, web design, etc.. 10:23:57 i'll get whatever i can get, in order to get my foot inside the door.. 10:24:05 how are you gonna do that? In 1 1/2 hrs you are just gonna walk up there and say 'I am he'? 10:24:18 yep 10:24:53 hmmm 10:25:18 i'll walk up, ask to talk to the human resources person.. and then i'll proceed to sell myself, get on my knees, beg, etc.. 10:25:29 i'm willing to volunteer for a month 10:25:31 hahahah 10:25:37 I like the volunteer bit. 10:25:42 perhaps I should try that. 10:25:46 which languages do you know/ 10:26:04 if they don't think they need me, i'll volunteer for a month, and then make myself invaluable, learn the whole business, and at the end of the month, ask them to consider hiring me seriously 10:26:16 --- quit: pyromaniac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:26:22 c, c++, assembly, forth, postscript, pascal, sql, html.. 10:26:59 hey do you know python too? 10:27:04 i should learn java, php, perl, python.. 10:27:10 it would look good on my resume.. 10:27:40 python >= perl ;) 10:27:50 perl > php ... 10:27:54 Java? Dunno. 10:30:25 --- join: Juu (ammu@baana-62-165-189-112.phnet.fi) joined #forth 10:31:10 i'm going to go in, try to market myself, try to get a job, if that doesn't work, ask to work for them at minimum wage, if that doesn't work, i'll offer to volunteer for a month.. 10:31:20 heyhey 10:31:26 it's going to be so much fun :P 10:31:28 Murr murr Juu 10:31:37 futhin I believe it will be fun. 10:31:50 i'm going to wear a suit 10:32:02 Make sure it is black... 10:32:02 hehe 10:32:05 and unleash the full powers of my fantastic smile ;) 10:32:07 and wear black shoes... 10:32:10 yes, it is a black suit 10:32:14 for some reason it impresses the mofos 10:32:16 and i have nice black dress shoes 10:32:31 futhin: do u have a pic of urself on the net? 10:32:46 no but, i plan on putting one up someday 10:32:56 s/no but,/no, but/ 10:33:13 send me 1 until then ;) 10:33:19 i need acess to a digital camera, or just a regular camera and a color scanner.. 10:33:32 k, then draw 1 ;) 10:33:37 heh :P 10:33:48 _`-'_ 10:33:49 i'll try ;) 10:33:50 like: kvizpart.hu/~tomka :) 10:34:15 --- nick: Juu -> JuuBBL 10:34:26 he is "dejdo" on linsze.hu -> képcsarnok 10:34:30 argh, my mouse is terible, i can't draw 10:34:59 futhin yay, what a rat it is :) 10:35:04 I think I am too handsome to bother to draw myself. 10:35:12 10:35:18 10:35:48 why, my radiant handsomeness shows through my text 10:36:38 futhin ... 10:37:48 you still there futhin? 10:38:13 :) 10:38:14 u hide him w ur shining ego ;) 10:38:34 Yes it is quite massive and tends to get in the way. 10:38:58 i just made a crudely drawn picture of me 10:39:07 with some lies ;) 10:39:55 i'm dcc sending.. 10:40:22 I hit 'accept' and the mofo is just sitting there looking at me! 10:40:26 ok 10:40:26 come down man! 10:40:34 heh 10:41:15 futhin: :( i either can accept some how... 10:41:25 it's my router 10:41:34 mail it instead: hermantom@freemail.hu 10:41:42 tom@hermantom.homeip.net 10:41:51 http://hermantom.homeip.net/~guest/crudepic.bmp 10:42:08 hm, wrong location.. 10:42:13 right 10:43:09 futhin.... its beautiful :] 10:43:21 i faked the muscles 10:43:34 and the line to the computer is supposed to be a neural jack 10:43:36 :P 10:43:44 * onetom noticed it :) 10:43:46 futhin: here is a question for you: 10:43:55 what do you do if they say they have no positions open? 10:44:55 http://hermantom.homeip.net/~guest/forth/crudepic.bmp 10:45:07 gilbert: i volunteer or ask for minimum wage position 10:45:48 my pic rules! ;) 10:46:15 yes I know... but isn't there a likelihood of them saying 'there absolutely is no space for free worker'? 10:46:20 the distinctive features: my hair is upswept, i'm blond, and i have a great smile ;) 10:46:29 bah. 10:46:31 gilbert: sure, then i go find another company 10:46:37 * GilbertBSD goes to find some peroxide 10:46:41 ah okay. 10:46:41 well 10:46:45 i'm not blonde anymore.. 10:46:52 it's gone light brown 10:47:06 Tell them you used to be a Model if its a woman hiring for the position. 10:47:17 i was born with red hair, then it was cherry blonde, now it's kind of blonde/reddish/light brown 10:47:20 If they insist, tell them your shoed foot was used in an ad once ;) 10:47:44 has anybody seen the movie "James Dean" ? 10:47:52 No. 10:48:17 hahaha... I can draw just as well as you can... 10:48:21 Only, I am too lazy. 10:49:25 draw a picture! 10:49:39 we'll put it up on onetom's "poorly drawn pictures" webpage! 10:49:44 hahaha 10:49:46 lemme see. 10:53:37 great! :) 10:53:45 let draw some things 4 fun ;) 10:58:35 --- nick: JuuBBL -> Juu 10:59:09 re 10:59:40 how do I send a dcc? 10:59:44 I just made a pix 11:00:06 http://kvizpart.hu/~tomka/ <= sounds interesting what is it anyway :) 11:01:14 --- join: Fare (fare@samaris.tunes.org) joined #forth 11:01:26 GilbertBSD: can you dcc me? 11:02:06 hehehe 11:02:14 Juu: just look @ the pictures 11:02:22 Now, I haven't seen a mirror in Ages! 11:02:32 Juu: and compare the cartoons w the real 1 11:02:34 onetom: check it out too ;) 11:03:26 GilbertBSD: lollllllllllllll 11:03:31 rox! 11:03:46 as you can see, I am very muscular. 11:03:50 lies! 11:03:53 i want to see.. 11:03:55 real one? 11:03:56 er 11:03:57 yeee yee 11:04:03 futhin did you get the dcc? 11:04:11 where is the real on ethen ?:) 11:04:12 Juu: yes I got muscles... 11:04:21 Juu: on linsze.hu under the képcsarnok link. he's dejdo 11:04:31 wow! you draw better than me!! 11:04:41 Juu: have ya seen the winnie the pooh theme? 11:04:44 It was all an accident man... 11:04:46 i thought i was the world's best drawer! 11:04:53 i used xpaint 11:05:10 what doest képcsarnok mean? 11:05:23 my mouse is screwed up though, seriously.. i have to flick it hard, just to get the arrow to go to the other side of the screen 11:05:23 Juu: photo gallery 11:05:23 winnie the pooh theme, no 11:05:48 how do you divide it into parts? 11:06:09 kép + csarnok? 11:06:09 futhin I understand completely... you did not air brush your pix. 11:06:16 You really gotta, its an industry must. 11:06:17 or kepcsar + -nok 11:06:50 http://kvizpart.hu/~tomka/munka.html 11:06:57 hmmm your biceps see larger than mine though. 11:07:04 especially the right one. 11:07:05 ^ the pooh theme 11:07:06 is that you, onetom? 11:07:35 Juu: kép (picture/photo, bild) + csarnok (well... :) 11:07:46 onetom: it is Mr Lenin, Dr. Marx, and Mr. Engels. 11:07:52 GilbertBSD: you airbrushed yours ? 11:07:59 well, a lil, 11:08:00 Juu: nooo, u can also find me in the kepcsarnok 11:08:14 i chose the wrong thing to use for the face outline... 11:08:22 that is what I meant by airbrushed ;) 11:08:53 who is tomak umm. then? 11:09:18 tomka 11:09:19 :) 11:09:21 a mate from the local linux users group 11:09:32 oki 11:09:34 of my city -- szeged 11:09:40 how old are you and how ald these pictures 11:09:48 yay, szeged i know 11:09:54 and pécs and budapest 11:09:56 and .. oh 11:10:40 hence the name lin(ux)sze(ged) 11:11:46 Juu: those pix r ~5yrs old 11:12:14 though so 11:25:24 --- quit: futhin ("bbl") 11:46:55 hey, guys! could any1 gimme some news server address 11:47:07 news server? 11:47:08 what allows the access 2 comp.lang.forth? 11:47:14 groups.google.com 11:47:34 eh, thats not a news server, or ami wrong? 11:47:48 you can do everything there. 11:47:59 but the web interface sux 11:48:15 heh, but it is open to everyone. 11:48:31 should i b happy now? 11:48:54 * onetom wants a real news server 2 access clf 11:48:55 yes you can read clf 11:49:27 GilbertBSD: i know groups.google.com, okay? 11:49:43 so you said. 11:49:57 GilbertBSD: but i want a a fast, txt news reader 2 process threads 11:50:11 ah oui. 11:50:50 like mutt, yaknow 11:51:16 sure 11:55:49 no accessible news servers on earth :( 11:55:54 4 me @ least 11:56:25 thats all folks 11:56:28 --- quit: GilbertBSD ("xchat exiting..") 11:57:16 http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/xpsucks/ 12:29:20 onetom: dejanews.com 12:30:13 jim: its also only a web interface, isnt it? 12:30:50 yep, but if you want to read news and you have no access to a news server... viable solution 12:31:37 what about your ISP? don't they have a news spool? 12:34:39 thats it. they doesnt make all the usual groups available 12:34:47 just the hungarian 1s :( 12:35:21 then we're back to dejanews 12:36:27 ews.cs.tu-berlin.de seems 2 work 12:36:28 thx 12:36:32 or google groups 12:36:45 imean, news.cs.tu... 12:37:06 jim: sure. weve already discussed google w GilbertBSD 12:41:13 the deal with news servers is either they let you in specifically or they don't... if they let anyone in, they're misconfigured, so if they see traffic and it becomes some kind of problem (or if spurious traffic -is- considered a problem), they might close it 12:44:09 yeah, iknow 12:45:03 now, im fighting w newsreaders (tin worx but lacks colors, slrn doesnt show what tin does :/ ) 12:45:20 colors?? 12:45:54 umm :) let me see if I have this straight... 12:46:44 first, you want a news server which mistakenly allows you to read (and maybe post... good LUCK on that part) and now you want colors? :) 12:47:57 A buzi n?kön, a fostalicska focin meg az lószar autókon kívül persze. 12:48:05 whooops :/ sorry 12:51:59 hehe 13:17:14 --- nick: Juu -> Jukka 13:27:36 --- join: davidw_ (~davidw@adsl-243-109.38-151.net24.it) joined #forth 13:27:36 --- quit: davidw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:37:15 --- nick: davidw_ -> davidw 13:39:46 --- join: pyromaniac (~pyromania@dialup-152.158.220.203.acc01-high-pen.comindico.com.au) joined #forth 13:51:15 --- join: zaurus (~skip@mira.taygeta.com) joined #forth 13:51:22 Hi 13:51:47 rob_ert :) 13:51:50 hey others 13:51:53 =D 13:52:08 rob_ert know b method now? :) 13:52:24 No. 13:52:25 :D 13:52:44 http://www.atelierb.societe.com/PAGE_B//uk/methb-01.htm 13:52:44 rob_ert: do u use a newsreader? 13:53:17 onetom: Nope. 13:53:24 yay: The variables of an abstract machine are described through expressions using mathematical concepts such as sets, relations, functions or suites. The static laws, which the variables must follow, are defined witht the help of predicates and constitute the invariant of the abstract machine. 13:53:59 formal methods are kool, it takes years to understand :) 13:54:12 only couple of toolkits are thre in whole world 13:54:45 (fockin french...) 13:54:57 --- part: Fare left #forth 13:55:21 --- join: Fare (fare@samaris.tunes.org) joined #forth 13:55:34 --- quit: Fare ("Connection reset by pear") 13:58:59 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 14:05:10 --- join: gforth0 (guest@adsl52056.vnet.hu) joined #forth 14:08:57 rob_ert want more ? 14:09:00 http://www.atelierb.societe.com/DAB/DAB_HTML/UK/main.html 14:10:24 --- join: kc5tja (kc5tja@stampede.org) joined #forth 14:10:31 re kc5tja 14:10:37 ah hello kc5tja 14:10:38 :) 14:10:43 re 14:10:44 Hey :) 14:10:56 rob_ert http://www.atelierb.societe.com/DAB/DAB_HTML/UK/main.html has B method in use, bank account (dab actually) 14:11:19 Hmm 14:11:24 Too lazy to check. 14:12:25 your loss.. agh, why can't french put "next" and "previous" on right side 14:13:20 rob_ert B method is university demanding level, better start learing early ;) 14:13:54 What IS that B method? 14:14:14 well 14:14:23 you must read many pages to understand even somethign about it 14:14:24 :) 14:15:12 XD 14:16:23 it's like theoretical mathematical and pseudolanguage in theory applied to practise 14:16:36 --- join: onetom_ (tom@adsl52056.vnet.hu) joined #forth 14:17:02 wow! ive never heard about forth.sf.net b4 14:19:15 but it has a surprising amount of *very* useful information! 14:19:59 --- quit: onetom_ (Client Quit) 14:20:07 --- join: onetom_ (tom@adsl52056.vnet.hu) joined #forth 14:21:10 would some1 b so kind as 2 kick out my phantom presence? 14:21:39 Gjost him :-) 14:21:42 Ghost* 14:22:09 --- quit: gforth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:22:09 --- nick: gforth0 -> gforth 14:22:11 ive found a comprehensive list of serious forth related ppl 14:22:14 --- quit: onetom (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:22:14 --- nick: onetom_ -> onetom 14:22:39 :) 14:23:05 and whats very important: a forth83 standard paper!! 14:25:13 --- join: futhin (~thin@h24-64-175-61.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 14:26:06 Hi futhin 14:27:06 heya 14:27:08 i'm back 14:27:15 Good to hear =) 14:27:44 onetom serious forth soudns bad 14:27:47 ;) 14:28:02 jukka: sounds bad how? 14:28:32 ;) 14:28:38 jk 14:28:40 agh 14:39:24 --- join: tcn (tcn@tc1-login26.megatrondata.com) joined #forth 14:39:25 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tcn 14:39:40 hey tcn 14:39:43 hello 14:40:44 hi tcn 14:40:48 long time no see :P 14:43:00 Hi tcn :} 14:43:05 hey 14:50:30 --- join: Juk (ammu@baana-62-165-189-112.phnet.fi) joined #forth 14:51:12 futhin: do u know forth.sf.net? 14:52:46 --- quit: Jukka (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:53:08