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05:38:05 <rob_ert> Hi
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05:44:49 <rob_ert> Hoi
05:46:24 <cdesousa> hi
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06:12:32 <rob_ert> Hi
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06:22:31 <tathi> hi rob_ert
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14:28:33 <rob_ert> Hi
14:38:36 <Etaoin> hello
14:52:30 <onetom> öhu
14:52:35 <onetom> hi
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15:07:12 <rob_ert> I440r :)
15:09:43 <I440r> rob :)
15:09:56 <I440r> oooh who is cdesousa ?
15:10:02 <I440r> a new #forther ?
15:10:17 <rob_ert> Seems like that :)
15:10:34 <I440r> cool!
15:10:43 <I440r> the more the merrier :)
15:10:56 <I440r> just went shooting the persian mauser
15:11:02 <I440r> awesome rifle
15:11:05 <rob_ert> Heh
15:11:07 <I440r> shot our own reloads 
15:11:32 <I440r> very nice groupings at 100 yards as compared to the shitty groupings with the yougoslavian military ammo :P
15:27:26 <I440r> can cahnserv do a !seen ?
15:27:30 <onetom> look!
15:27:50 <rob_ert> Yes...
15:27:56 <rob_ert> Er
15:28:00 <rob_ert> nickserv can
15:28:03 <rob_ert> not chanserv, I think
15:28:08 <onetom> ive found a funny representation "syntax" for the 4th dict in awk
15:29:01 <onetom> I440r: cdesousa is also from .nl...
15:29:49 <I440r> yea i saw :)
15:30:02 <I440r> .nl must like forth :)
15:33:10 <onetom> I440r: probably hes the friend of Speuler,uiver,segher,aaronl (grep rlz ;)
15:33:58 <onetom> so: may i show u some tricy awk code?
15:34:18 <I440r> :)
15:34:35 <I440r> sure but i dont know awk hehe
15:35:32 <onetom> its just like *khm* u ll find out what ;)
15:35:33 <onetom>   dp    =0      # dictionary pointer
15:35:34 <onetom>   Xit   =dp;_(  primitiveWord   )_(00)
15:35:34 <onetom>   op1   =dp;_(  primitiveWord   )_(01)
15:35:34 <onetom>   op2   =dp;_(  primitiveWord   )_(02)
15:35:34 <onetom>   op3   =dp;_(  primitiveWord   )_(03)
15:35:34 <onetom>   word1 =dp;_(  threadedWord    )_(op1)_(op2)_(Xit)
15:35:36 <onetom>   word2 =dp;_(  threadedWord    )_(op3)_(Xit)
15:35:38 <onetom>   test  =dp;_(  threadedWord    )_(word1)_(word2)_(Xit)
15:36:09 <onetom> -------
15:36:35 <onetom> i felt a bit like an ascii artist 2nite :)
15:36:44 <I440r> whats it do ?
15:37:29 <onetom> so ive chained some identifiers in2 threads :)
15:37:43 <onetom> it does the same as:
15:38:17 <onetom> :: ;; primitive-word ,, ' RET ,,
15:38:17 <onetom> : (op1) cr ." op1" ;
15:38:17 <onetom> : (op2) cr ." op2" ;
15:38:17 <onetom> : (op3) cr ." op3" ;
15:38:17 <onetom> :: op1 primitive-word ,, ' (op1) ,,
15:38:19 <onetom> :: op2 primitive-word ,, ' (op2) ,,
15:38:21 <onetom> :: op3 primitive-word ,, ' (op3) ,,
15:38:23 <onetom> ( and here comes the actual sample code )
15:38:25 <onetom> :: word1 threaded-word ,, op1 ,, op2 ,, ;; ,,
15:38:27 <onetom> :: word2 threaded-word ,, op3 ,, ;; ,,
15:38:29 <onetom> :: test threaded-word ,, word1 ,, word2 ,, ;; ,,
15:38:31 <onetom> -----------
15:38:39 <I440r> whats ,, ?
15:39:08 <onetom> havent u ever cn my kernel.fs???
15:39:19 <I440r> nope
15:39:41 <onetom> well... have a look @ it plz ;)
15:39:45 <I440r> sure :)
15:39:45 <I440r> er
15:39:48 <I440r> where is it:P
15:40:21 <onetom> http://hermantom.homeip.net/~tom/forth/kernel.fs
15:40:27 <onetom> http://hermantom.homeip.net/~tom/forth/kernel.awk
15:40:42 <onetom> but the awk version is still buggy
15:41:01 <onetom> and has some debugging output
15:42:53 <onetom> oops
15:43:15 <onetom> check them under ~guest instead of ~tom
15:43:59 <onetom> tho, kernel.fs-es r probably the same..
15:45:04 <I440r> k
15:45:57 <onetom> its a very very very simple threaded code example
15:46:17 <I440r> yea. isaw
15:46:19 <I440r> looks neat
15:46:25 <onetom> w a totally schematic dict struct
15:46:34 <onetom> oh, thank u :)
15:46:53 <onetom> i made it so i can show how the various
15:47:05 <onetom> 4th mechanisms work
15:47:19 <onetom> like preemptive multitasking
15:47:50 <onetom> at the threaded code executor virtual processor level
15:48:07 <onetom> 2, control structures
15:48:12 <onetom> 3, locals
15:48:56 <onetom> & i plan 2 implement these things in a very minimalistic manner
15:49:25 <onetom> so they could b easily understood by not so experienced individuals to
15:50:03 <onetom> & i also plan 2 implement them in various languages, coz:
15:51:10 <onetom> 1, this way those programmer who only know this-or-that lang could also get the chance
15:51:31 <onetom> being tempted by 4th :)
15:52:26 <I440r> :)
15:52:48 <onetom> do u think its a good tactic?
15:53:09 <onetom> beside all the above
15:54:40 <I440r> yes
15:54:57 <I440r> its actually part of what i want isforth to do
15:55:17 <I440r> im deliberatly not doing complext shit to make it easier for others to understand forth :)
15:55:24 <I440r> tho isforth is still quite complex
15:55:56 <onetom> aha, well... u also have 2 document it
15:56:12 <onetom> immediately during coding
15:56:21 <onetom> as ive just mentioned it yesterday
15:56:58 <onetom> it could also help u l8r remember
15:57:22 <onetom> why did u decided doing a specific thing
15:57:32 <onetom> that way u did
15:58:18 <onetom> and all the others could get answers wo interviewing u :P
15:58:38 <onetom> eg, the quotes file is a similar good idea,
15:58:51 <onetom> what u just have created, eg
16:00:28 <I440r> bbl gotta go
16:00:29 <I440r> bbl
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