00:00:00 --- log: started forth/01.12.01 00:37:38 --- join: Talia` (goshawk@206-136.dialup.cloud9.net) joined #forth 00:37:48 --- part: Talia` left #forth 01:45:37 --- join: MrReach (~mrreach@209.181.43.190) joined #forth 10:56:52 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.77) joined #forth 11:02:09 hi all 12:15:42 --- quit: edrx ("[x]chat") 14:16:47 --- log: started forth/01.12.01 14:16:47 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 14:16:47 --- names: list (clog @Speuler @MrReach @nate37) 14:28:28 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@ip-216-25-205-141.vienna.va.fcc.net) joined #forth 14:28:36 hiya all 14:28:56 hi TBW... back from the dead ? 14:29:03 * Speuler alias bongo 14:29:08 greets, TheBlueWizard 14:29:13 lol....yup...it's a miracle, yes? :) 14:29:24 hiya Speuler and MrReach 14:30:30 thought you had left us for good 14:30:45 oh no....just being busy heh 14:31:53 I still come to here once in a while even when I was busy...you can see that for yourself by /msg nickserv info TheBlueWizard 14:32:24 it'll show me still using that nick for a long time :) 14:32:29 got that now? 14:32:33 i haven't been only that often myself as i used to be 14:32:46 work, absence and the like 14:34:04 heh...plus I have some annoying problems with setting up the mailing stuff on my Debian machine...I decided to wait til woody becomes stable then I'll install the gui then I can use the Ethereal to figure out what went wrong.... 14:37:50 exim ? 14:37:56 sendmail ? 14:38:01 postfix ? 14:38:30 mutt with fetchmail...I am trying to figure out why Fetchmail fails to retrieve the mails 14:38:38 oh 14:38:49 fetchmail was the easy part, i thought 14:39:02 doesn't it say in the logs ? 14:39:41 to do that I have to look at packet conversation....I set it up as best as I can tell...the problem lies in the authentication part 14:40:01 I think Fetchmail is sending wrong password somehow 14:40:14 did you set the config file privs to 600 ? 14:40:18 yes 14:40:34 telnet to the pop server, and try it by hand ... 14:40:50 do: 14:41:00 haven't done that; don't know the protocol stuff that well 14:41:12 telnet pop3 14:41:20 user 14:41:27 pass 14:41:29 list 14:42:29 wrote down that info 14:42:51 right now I'm on that other OS (I use it to get emails) 14:43:04 there's a telnet client too 14:43:10 I will test it when I start up my Linux laptop 14:43:41 test using telnet from Win? 14:44:08 i got a working fetchmailrc in front of me 14:44:25 would it help to to show you the contents ? 14:45:08 lemme try it from Win first... 14:46:02 what is the port number for pop3 (I forgot!) 14:46:31 110 14:46:55 but you can use pop3 instead of 110 too 14:47:11 not on a Win95 machine :) 14:47:42 oops 14:48:57 interesting...when I get to the pass part, it said authentication failed...same thing I got on fetchmail 14:49:13 wrong password ? 14:49:49 I know my password is correct cuz it works under Outlook Express and I know it is a POP3 server 14:50:27 any idea? 14:51:08 guess: pop server doesn't allow plaintext passwords 14:51:55 hmm...as far as I can tell I am not using encrypted communication 14:52:13 didn't know pop3 was able to 14:52:25 the user is accepted though 14:53:33 and then it asks for password ? 14:53:47 it just said +OK 14:54:07 no prompting for password 14:54:49 then it probably needs the password in a file which the client looks up and sends it upon request 14:55:11 that's unusual for pop3 14:55:46 maybe...no idea how Outlook Express works with regards to password generation (assuming it is indeed encoded somehow) 14:55:58 * TheBlueWizard nods 14:56:04 annoying, eh? 14:57:04 but thanks for the help...at least I now know fetchmail isn't the problem...it is the "interface" communication that causes the problem 15:06:04 --- nick: MrReach -> MrGone 15:08:41 TBW: would an additional mail account be of any help to you ? 15:09:06 one which you can pop ? 15:09:10 I prefer to have just one email acct 15:10:08 I'll swap machines 15:10:21 will be gone for some minutes 15:10:25 k 15:10:30 --- quit: Speuler ("ircII/tkirc") 15:10:36 I'm watching TV now 15:15:48 --- join: Speuler (l@passionsfrucht.icafe.spacenet.de) joined #forth 16:02:37 --- nick: MrGone -> MrReach 16:02:46 --- mode: MrReach set mode: +oo Speuler TheBlueWizard 16:03:53 thx 16:04:01 you're welcome 16:05:02 I will be offline in 10 min or so...dinner 16:05:14 very well 16:05:17 plus to switch over to Debian after dinner :) 16:05:19 enjoy your meal 16:13:57 bbl 16:14:01 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 16:23:39 --- quit: Speuler (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 16:25:03 --- join: Speuler (l@passionsfrucht.icafe.spacenet.de) joined #forth 16:32:30 thank you 16:32:45 for what now? 16:32:49 --- mode: MrReach set mode: +o Speuler 16:32:58 oh, i withdraw that one ... 16:33:09 * MrReach laughs. 16:33:51 this reminds of a room full of Japanese each bowing in all directions, thanking each other and accomplishing little else. 16:49:40 --- quit: Speuler (Connection timed out) 16:52:15 --- join: Speuler (l@passionsfrucht.icafe.spacenet.de) joined #forth 17:14:34 yep 17:57:49 --- quit: Speuler (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 17:58:59 --- join: Speuler (l@passionsfrucht.icafe.spacenet.de) joined #forth 18:23:28 --- quit: Speuler (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 18:45:29 --- join: TheBlueWizard (~tbw@ip-216-25-202-177.vienna.va.fcc.net) joined #forth 18:45:35 hiya all again 19:05:07 later 19:05:09 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 20:41:09 --- join: aaronl (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 20:41:26 --- part: aaronl left #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/01.12.01