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07:33:18 <futhin> how do you turn off auto op?
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07:37:16 <futhin> you there mrreach?
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10:56:07 <topaz8> hi 
10:56:19 <MrReach> greetings!
10:56:23 <MrReach> How's your day?
10:56:42 <topaz8> ok
10:59:19 <MrReach> as you can probably tell, we are not discussing anything at the moment    @:^>
11:13:58 <Speuler> hi mrreach
11:14:07 * MrReach nods.
11:14:09 <Speuler> fine , thank you. how was yours ?
11:14:20 <MrReach> excellent, actually
11:14:21 <Speuler> hi topaz8 !!
11:14:36 <Speuler> just got aware that you're here too
11:14:56 * Speuler was just talking to topaz8 through talk-over-secure-shell :)
11:15:15 <MrReach> oh?
11:15:22 <MrReach> does that have a windows version?
11:15:26 <Speuler> well, mrreach, i didn't expect you to go into discussion with clog
11:15:35 <topaz8> I have nothing to tell about forth.
11:15:36 <MrReach> (the sound on my linux box doesn't work, *SIGH*)
11:16:07 <Speuler> we're more often off-topic than talking about forth here
11:16:14 <MrReach> oh, do you mean "talk" as in the unix typing thing?
11:16:24 <Speuler> when futhin is around, it sometimes gets forth-oriented again :)
11:18:05 <Speuler> topaz8 is the guy who got a forth book (from forth inc) for free
11:18:10 <Speuler> form the local bookstore !
11:18:29 <MrReach> ok
11:21:22 <Speuler> yes, lthe unix talk
11:21:41 <Speuler> i'm not aware of a windows version of talk
11:21:47 <Speuler> but shouldn't be a problem
11:21:56 <Speuler> or, maybe it is
11:22:07 <MrReach> I was initially thinking that you were chatting voice
11:22:08 <Speuler> i'm not sure
11:22:29 <MrReach> which I think would be fun
11:23:00 <MrReach> but it's hard to find multi-platform voice software, and harder still to get others to install it
11:25:22 <Speuler> i might get involved in designing a bet-to-audio converter
11:25:25 <Speuler> net-to
11:25:42 <Speuler> probably a micronas based design
11:25:51 <MrReach> a WHAT?
11:25:59 <Speuler> for the mp3-to-audio part
11:26:04 <MrReach> micro-nas?
11:26:05 <Speuler> MASxxxx
11:26:16 <MrReach> what is that?
11:26:25 <Speuler> a tiny mp3-to-audio chip
11:26:37 <MrReach> why wouldn't you use a standard MP3 de/coder library?
11:26:52 <Speuler> cause it would need a cpu, and a software decoder
11:27:08 <Speuler> it would be a server-centric design
11:27:25 <Speuler> brb
11:27:37 <MrReach> so you're envisioning a black box with and ethernet cable in one side, headphones in another side?
11:27:41 <MrReach> ok
11:27:55 <Speuler> bn
11:28:05 <Speuler> yes
11:28:17 <Speuler> therapeutic use
11:28:19 <MrReach> hrmph
11:28:23 <Speuler> coma patients
11:28:30 <MrReach> oh? good idea!
11:28:38 <Speuler> not mine, actually
11:28:43 <MrReach> but one can use standard audio stuff for that
11:28:46 <Speuler> me just stupid technician
11:29:10 <Speuler> there is a composer for exactly those kind of audio
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11:29:45 <MrReach> why wouldn't you use a CD player set to play continuously? or a PC?
11:29:52 <MrReach> greetings, qless
11:29:57 <qless> heya mrreach
11:32:18 <Speuler> because with such a box, you can use the server to select the sounds
11:32:45 <MrReach> and how is this valuable?
11:33:03 <MrReach> (rather than putting in a different CD?)
11:34:08 <Speuler> you can serve several patients, without having to run around
11:34:15 <Speuler> there's also a licensing issue
11:34:20 <Speuler> for the sounds
11:34:47 * MrReach nods.
11:35:19 <Speuler> an impressive budget seems to exist for development
11:35:29 <MrReach> cool
11:35:43 <MrReach> you ought to see if there is a place for I440r in this project
11:35:54 <Speuler> and i slipped into that, as usual, purely by chance :)
11:36:12 <Speuler> now THATs an idea. only, it won't start tomorrow
11:36:27 <MrReach> heh
11:36:58 <Speuler> and he needs something quickly
11:37:29 <MrReach> yes, understood, but it's a possiblity for future income
11:37:29 <Speuler> that project is likely to be berlin-based
11:37:38 <MrReach> that is awkward, also
11:37:48 <Speuler> berlin is not that bad a place ...
11:38:07 <Speuler> and getting around is a good thing too
11:38:08 <MrReach> he is *VERY* happy with the house that he just moved into
11:38:37 <MrReach> I'm sure he wouldn't mind a visit to Berlin, but the company may balk at the airfare
11:39:12 <MrReach> why wouldn't you use a smallish high-speed processor and FLASH ram?
11:39:33 <Speuler> cause i would need to program the mp3 decoder
11:39:46 <Speuler> which i don't want to do
11:39:47 <MrReach> ethernet stuff is *SO* much easier with a processor handy
11:40:17 <MrReach> erm ... you'd only have to do it once
11:40:26 <MrReach> heh, and the IP stack
11:40:45 <Speuler> which would be necessary anyway
11:40:53 <Speuler> so i better focus on that
11:40:53 <MrReach> also, there's no reason it HAS to be in MP3 format, is there?
11:41:00 <Speuler> and the server stuff too
11:41:06 <Speuler> not really, no
11:41:16 <Speuler> but the compression is not bad
11:41:28 <MrReach> yes, compression is excellent
11:41:31 <Speuler> reduces network traffic, and hard disk space requirements
11:41:46 <MrReach> no, store in server in MP3 format
11:41:47 <Speuler> plenty of tools to compress are available
11:42:06 <MrReach> decode on server into an uncompressed stream ...
11:42:14 <MrReach> using standard libs
11:42:21 <MrReach> then send to headphones
11:42:36 <MrReach> actually, there is already hardware to do exactly that, I think
11:42:51 <Speuler> how many concurrent sessions could you serve with that ?
11:43:03 <MrReach> an ethernet appliance that allows you to listen to audio
11:43:13 <Speuler> nas
11:43:25 <MrReach> I don't have enough info to tell you that
11:44:06 <MrReach> but NIC cards are cheap
11:44:32 * qless is away: I'm busy
11:44:35 <Speuler> brb
11:44:47 <MrReach> ok
11:52:27 <Speuler> bn
11:59:16 <Speuler> do you know of a nic with cpu and ip-stack on board ?
11:59:56 <Speuler> a nic as programmable stand-alone client ?
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12:08:01 <MrReach> no, I don't
12:08:20 <MrReach> but HP and Intel and Harris make integrated units
12:08:36 <MrReach> not sure what is on the side opposite the ethrnet, though
12:21:11 <topaz8> I have to go,see you and g.e.
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12:21:22 <MrReach> fare well
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22:17:14 <futhin> hihi
22:27:03 <futhin> i've got forthmud on sourceforge now! :P
22:46:59 <futhin> forthmud.sf.net ;)
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