00:00:00 --- log: started forth/01.09.16 00:13:15 --- join: kersmonk (kersmonk@adsl-216-103-90-157.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 00:13:26 --- part: kersmonk left #forth 08:49:19 --- join: futhin (orh@h24-67-117-160.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 11:02:07 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.109) joined #forth 11:55:56 --- join: Fare (Fare.LISPM@samaris.tunes.org) joined #forth 12:51:12 --- quit: edrx (zelazny.openprojects.net sagan.openprojects.net) 12:51:39 --- join: MrReach (mrreach@209.181.43.184) joined #forth 12:51:47 greetings, futhin 12:52:33 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.109) joined #forth 13:01:03 greetings mrreach 13:01:08 greetings edrx 13:01:17 hi futhin! 13:01:38 gakuk 13:01:42 hum 13:01:50 I've lost track of what happened to eforth 1.0 13:02:42 edrx: how's it going? doing lots of forthing? 13:02:52 * Fare doing some lisping 13:03:04 fare: i dunno.. isn't there like eforth 1.0b or something? 13:03:06 very little - I have played a little bit with my lua-based forth, but nothing really new 13:03:10 i don't know anything.. 13:03:13 edrx: lua? 13:03:25 futhin: yup - never heard of it? 13:03:45 what does lua mean? 13:03:52 some people call it "tcl made right" - it's a simple (but powerful) glue language 13:04:02 means "moon" in portugues 13:04:06 guese 13:04:24 futhin: do you have a copy of 1.0b ? 13:04:30 I've lost earlier copies 13:04:30 oh, you are the guy that wants the forth "tcl" thingie that's portable across linux, windows, and mac ? 13:04:37 its predecessor was called "sol", for "sol e' outra linguagem" (sol is another language) 13:04:42 my current is 1.0e+ 13:04:45 fare: nope, sorry.. 13:04:54 fare: i just saw it somewhere on the web 13:05:06 * Fare would like to put old version in CVS, if only I can find them... 13:05:18 fare: do you do much forth coding? 13:05:35 futhin: veyr little indeed 13:05:41 I used to code for HP28 RPL 13:06:33 fare: don't like it? 13:09:04 edrx: are you the guy that wants the forth "tcl" thingie that's portable across linux, windows, and mac ? 13:09:20 futhin: yes 13:09:30 futhin: oh no, sorry 13:09:42 don't like what? 13:09:50 futhin: I'm just the one that wants a forth that can access functions from several languages 13:10:02 I think that there are great things about FORTH, but that ANS FORTH is much too low-level for most applications 13:10:10 futhin: I'm not planning to use any non-free OS in the next years 13:10:23 I'd rather do inline low-level things in a high-level system than build up things from a low-level one 13:10:55 the reason being simple: when you build up, you can never trust third-party code to respect your high-level invariants 13:11:14 whereas when you dig down, you're sure the high-level code respects your low-level invariants 13:17:46 third-party code? :) 13:19:34 why do you think there is mostly none in forth, and heaps of it in perl? 13:29:42 difference of the philosophy of chuck moore 13:30:00 and forth is all about his philosophy 13:30:31 ansi forth is just a sad deviant ;) 13:32:03 --- quit: futhin (bbl) 13:35:36 well, part of that philosophy doesn't suit me 13:36:17 my, as far as people who want to make systems they fully grok goes, the authors of the LISP machine, or that Niclaus Wirth guy, proved you could do it with high-level languages 13:37:00 (Wirth made his own computer fully programmed in whatever Pascal evolution of the day he had) 13:37:11 so that's no excuse 13:53:32 ah! 13:53:38 * MrReach reads backscroll 13:56:23 it was I who wanted a cross-platform forth with uniform GUI API 14:20:51 --- quit: edrx ([x]chat) 15:18:10 --- quit: MrReach () 18:01:20 --- quit: Fare (Connection reset by pear) 21:29:50 --- join: futhin (orh@h24-67-117-160.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 21:37:33 --- quit: futhin () 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/01.09.16