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08:03:57 <speuler> g'day
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09:01:03 <[ernie]> g'day
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09:06:50 <[ernie]> hoi bean
09:06:56 <[ernie]> scherm is weer terug
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09:08:13 <mrbean> hallo
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09:08:23 <speuler> dag bean
09:08:34 <speuler> speuler alias bongo
09:08:35 <mrbean> moest ff chello gateway bestoken...
09:08:51 <mrbean>  ping -v -n -f -s 500 212.187.37.33
09:08:51 <mrbean> PING 212.187.37.33 (212.187.37.33): 500 data bytes
09:08:51 <mrbean> --- 212.187.37.33 ping statistics ---...................................................................................
09:08:51 <mrbean> 3615 packets transmitted, 234 packets received, 93% packet loss
09:08:51 <mrbean> round-trip min/avg/max = 107.534/3466.799/3821.140 ms
09:08:55 <speuler> 'k vond dat ik de laatste drie minuten voor niets zat te tikken
09:09:07 <speuler> m'n scherm was namelijk donker ... timeout
09:09:18 <mrbean> hmm
09:09:27 <mrbean> jouw scherm ?
09:09:28 <speuler> ik vertelde van het noodweer gisteren
09:09:30 <mrbean> huh
09:09:40 <speuler> tijd afgelopen. ik heb nog ee nuurtje bij genomen
09:09:42 <mrbean> naar talk sessie bedoel je ?
09:09:48 <mrbean> ach zo
09:10:11 <mrbean> gaat net dicht dan ?
09:10:17 <mrbean> of scherm power uit ?
09:10:22 <speuler> ze schakelen de scherm uit, maar laten de masjien aan. dus kan ik zonder scherm nog effe doorgaan, alleen zie ik niets
09:10:28 <mrbean> lol
09:10:46 <mrbean> simpel schakelklokje op de 220V dus
09:10:57 <speuler> en ik zei dat mijn konsumptie tijd op was , de gratis uur, terwijl ik nog niets eens konsumptie had.
09:11:03 <speuler> precies.
09:11:08 <speuler> hele batterij ervan.
09:11:14 <mrbean> lol
09:11:16 <speuler> vaak schakelen ze de foute klok aan
09:11:27 <mrbean> ok ik gooi die talk dicht, ok ?
09:11:31 <mrbean> lol
09:11:32 <speuler> ik heb vmware trouwens goed lopen.
09:11:45 <mrbean> hmm interesting kan dat zijn
09:11:49 <speuler> het programma voor de gps plattegronden doet het er ook goed ermee
09:11:59 <mrbean> aha !
09:12:03 <speuler> ik heb nu dus de originale installatie verwijderd
09:12:19 <mrbean> draait in windows onder vmware ?
09:12:24 <speuler> hoef ik nioet meer winshit te booten, plattegronden te laden,. en terug naar linux.
09:12:29 <speuler> yep.
09:12:30 <mrbean> snap
09:12:42 <mrbean> ik gooi talk dicht, ok ?
09:12:57 <mrbean> of openlaten ?
09:13:05 <speuler> bovendien klan de win sessie ook suspended worden, zodat ze geen geheugen kost, maar binnen
09:13:13 <speuler> een second hersteld worden kan.
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09:13:35 <speuler> leuk. klikje, en windows draait.
09:13:39 <MrBean> hmm mooi
09:13:41 <speuler> weer klikje, en weg is het weer
09:14:02 <MrBean> ehm..
09:14:03 <speuler> alleen indien winshit crasht moet ik het opnieuw starten
09:14:10 <MrBean> ehm..
09:14:13 <MrBean> hallo ?
09:14:14 <speuler> (opnieuw in vmware)
09:14:18 <MrBean> ik gooi talk dicht, ok ?
09:14:21 <MrBean> of openlaten ?
09:14:22 <speuler> goed
09:14:28 <speuler> maakt nits uit
09:14:36 <MrBean> k , laat ik het zo
09:14:40 <speuler> ik weet hoe ik het blind moet afsluiten zou dat nodig zijn
09:14:50 <MrBean> dacht dat je van de shell afwou
09:15:00 <MrBean> ok
09:15:06 <speuler> zolang ze niet op het scherm te zien is
09:15:15 <MrBean> heb lang geen irc geklooid
09:15:18 <MrBean> lol
09:15:22 <speuler> is er niets an de hand. dan hoef ik niet continue mijn omgeving in de gaten te houden
09:15:51 * MrBean loert over je schouder
09:15:51 <speuler> is gewoon intikken
09:15:56 <MrBean> lol
09:16:16 <speuler> heb toch even dicht gezet
09:16:21 <speuler> en uitgelogd
09:16:29 <MrBean> lo
09:16:29 <speuler> had toch al alles gedaan wat ik wou
09:16:31 <MrBean> ;
09:16:33 <MrBean> leuk
09:16:43 <MrBean> ok
09:17:00 <MrBean> ik heb de strongarm print af !
09:17:22 <MrBean> 80x42.8x7mm
09:17:27 <speuler> id-1 formaat :)
09:17:45 <MrBean> 32M ram, 32M rom
09:17:47 <speuler> maar niet zo plat
09:17:49 <MrBean> 200Mips
09:17:59 <MrBean> is incl voeding
09:18:07 <MrBean> met spoelen...
09:18:10 <speuler> heel wat meer dan dat luttele dingens waarmee ik te maken krijg
09:18:22 <speuler> maar de cpu is nog niet af
09:18:32 <speuler> alleen simulator
09:18:37 <MrBean> zonder voeding kan dunner: 2.5mm (incl print)
09:18:45 <speuler> 0.8 mm hier
09:18:48 <MrBean> hmm
09:19:06 <MrBean> 8 bitter ?
09:19:09 <speuler> nope
09:19:11 <speuler> 32
09:19:18 <MrBean> hm mooi
09:19:28 <MrBean> maar minder memory ?
09:19:36 <speuler> heel wat minder
09:19:55 <MrBean> mem maakt grootste deel van print uit...
09:20:14 <speuler> geheugen ligt op andere plane dan cpu core
09:20:25 <MrBean> hmm mooi
09:20:40 <MrBean> stacked chips ?
09:20:44 <speuler> yep
09:20:59 <speuler> de simulatie natuurlijk niet
09:21:09 <MrBean> stacked silicon of nog met bondwires verbonden ?
09:21:25 <speuler> vertical layering
09:21:41 <MrBean> stacked silicon ..
09:21:47 <speuler> 3d chips
09:22:11 <MrBean> lagen worden voor zover ik weet nog wel 1 voor 1 gemaat
09:22:16 <MrBean> gemaakt
09:22:25 <speuler> externe design
09:22:31 <MrBean> tip:
09:23:01 <MrBean> gerben (broertje) werkt tegenwoordig bij fault-analisis bij philips...
09:23:05 <speuler> ik werd van de chipfoundry gevraagd of ik wilde wisselen naar hun :)
09:23:14 <MrBean> die doen veel reverse engineering...
09:23:37 <MrBean> heb je niet een chippie over voor hem als het zover is ;)
09:23:47 <MrBean> lol
09:23:55 <MrBean> daar gaat de security
09:24:08 <speuler> ontstaat in zamenwerking
09:24:20 <MrBean> jep, snap
09:24:25 <speuler> ik had met de designer kontakt
09:24:30 <MrBean> leuk
09:24:51 <speuler> hij vind (nu) forth erg leuk
09:25:19 <speuler> kan dus wat hulp gebruiken
09:25:22 <MrBean> hmm luistert iemand van berkeley nu mee..
09:25:35 <MrBean> hoop dat ie geen nederlands kent ;)
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12:38:52 <I440r> is that hello world asciiz ? or counted
12:38:57 <I440r> i think its counted isnt it ?
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20:02:01 --- mode: cleverdra set mode: +oo _MrReach_ Trey
20:02:15 --- topic: set to ': n this 1+ l ;' by cleverdra
20:03:24 <Trey> ?
20:04:42 <cleverdra> definition for N in Enth's new editor, the N of which is b0rken.
20:05:12 <Trey> Ah.
20:05:44 <cleverdra> or, no, actually the N may be only b0rken when you follow the documentation in loading your floppy.  I discovered that the real and sensible way to do it involves something totally different.  I'll have to see if A and N work after that.
20:05:57 <Trey> I'd almost opened a new terminal window to build a new Enth floppy.
20:06:03 <cleverdra> BAD:  1440 blocks floppy@
20:06:06 <cleverdra> Trey - almost?
20:06:15 <cleverdra> GOOD:  1440 session session@ nip floppy@
20:06:30 <cleverdra> : ses1 [ session@ swap ] literal literal session! ;
20:07:21 <Trey> "almost" - I checked the IRC window before opening the terminal :-)
20:07:32 <cleverdra> Oh =)  Just now?
20:07:41 <Trey> Yeah.
20:08:20 <cleverdra> The new Enth is cool.  Flux is *EVEN MORE* isolated from the main system, but I've managed to think of a way to get defined commands into it.
20:09:08 <cleverdra> I like the new editor, except that I think its new line-oriented nature may make my Color Forth editing somewhat more difficult.  I've already thought of definitions that'll help me here.
20:09:47 <Trey> I'll probably stick with Enth and ignore Flux for a while.
20:09:55 <cleverdra> The whole system is cooler though, Task-wise.  You can use <ESC> to toggle between your current task and your last task.  There is a FOCUS idiom in tasks that can hold focus, and there are two editors and two consoles, one of each being colored.
20:10:18 <cleverdra> Also, there are task-specific variables and stacks and superblocks.
20:11:05 <Trey> How do you create a task-specific variable?
20:11:17 <cleverdra> I don't know, I haven't tried yet.  I gather that you do with with VARIABLE.
20:11:42 <cleverdra> I think you have to do extra work if you want to set up a way for tasks to communicate with each other.
20:12:41 <cleverdra> that you do it with.
20:12:55 <Trey> ?
20:13:12 <cleverdra> I was fixing my earlier sentence, which lacked the 'if'.
20:28:24 <Trey> Hmmm.  My CLOCK task goes to sleep and stops updating the time.
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20:33:08 <cleverdra> Trey - when does it do that?
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20:34:04 <Trey> Shortly after I boot Enth.  I don't know if it has any relation to my use of the keyboard or not.
20:34:29 * cleverdra hmms.
20:34:49 <cleverdra> The new Enth?  Do you change the FOCUS task at all?  What does .TASKS say?
20:37:05 <Trey> 0.2.0.6.  It happens before I change the focus task (I think)  .TASKS lists the clock as asleep when it stops working.
20:37:51 <cleverdra> wierd.  You don't do anything?  Wake it up.
20:39:14 * cleverdra goes to check on his clock task.
20:40:06 <cleverdra> mines awake.  I've been changing tasks and everything.
20:40:27 <cleverdra> You realize that by default it only works in the forth console?
20:40:36 <cleverdra> is only on.
20:41:55 <Trey> Right.
20:42:39 <cleverdra> So, it stops when you're in the forth console?
20:42:42 <Trey> Yes.
20:42:59 <cleverdra> Have you tried waking it up?
20:43:04 <Trey> How do I do that?
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20:43:48 <cleverdra> the task.txt documentation tells you about it.  I can't easily check that right now (I need to blockify those).  If you wait a second, and can't check yourself, I'll tell you.
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20:43:58 <Trey> I can check it.
20:44:39 * cleverdra nods.
20:44:42 <cleverdra> The command is WAKE, anyway.
20:44:56 <cleverdra> You can use .TASKS to get CLOCK's task number.
20:45:36 <cleverdra> The HIS part of documentation mentions user variables, too.
20:45:36 <notjunkd> i440r
20:45:36 <notjunkd> ugh
20:45:41 <notjunkd> you're added to my ignore list again
20:45:41 <notjunkd> heh
20:45:44 <notjunkd> let me fix that
20:45:50 <I440r> lamer :P
20:45:56 <notjunkd> it just adds you lol
20:46:08 <notjunkd> i'll brb
20:46:09 <notjunkd> :P
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20:46:23 <Trey> cleverdra: I know about WAKE, but CLOCK doesn't exist in the default wordlists.
20:46:26 <I440r> next time it adds me - leave me there hehe
20:46:44 <I440r> vocabulary
20:46:49 <I440r> not wordlist
20:47:32 <cleverdra> Trey - see my next statement =)
20:47:33 <I440r> wordlist is another bullshit word added to make forth more "politically correct"
20:47:42 <cleverdra> <cleverdra> You can use .TASKS to get CLOCK's task number.
20:48:35 <I440r> brb -p gotta restart xchat
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20:48:51 <cleverdra> I440r - how do you mean?  What's wrong with wordlists?  You can implement vocabularies with them, and you can also use them as just lists of words.  One very simple way to build command lists, say for network clients.
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20:49:41 <cleverdra> I440r - how do you mean?  What's wrong with wordlists?  You can implement vocabularies with them, and you can also use them as just lists of words.  One very simple way to build command lists, say for network clients.
20:50:42 <Trey> cleverdra: do you mean the CFA for the task?
20:51:26 <I440r> the word is "vocabulary" but thats difficlut for non forthers to understand
20:51:28 <cleverdra> Trey - hm.  Try it.
20:51:52 <I440r> i like forth being difficult for the lamers to understand - it keeps them out :)
20:51:58 <Trey> Name, Status, CFS, SP0
20:52:15 <cleverdra> Trey - I remember there being a number in TASKS.  I don't think there's any point in listing other than the number WAKE and such want.
20:52:23 <cleverdra> SP0 is probably not what you want.
20:52:40 <I440r> theres a compo announced on clf
20:52:51 <I440r> i was going to enter but is bogus
20:53:04 <I440r> ur program HAS to run under RHG 7
20:53:09 <cleverdra> oh, the competition?
20:53:12 <cleverdra> What is RHG 7?
20:53:17 <I440r> i.e. there are NO real forths i can use
20:53:26 <I440r> red hat + typo
20:53:30 <cleverdra> oh.
20:54:29 <cleverdra> gforth and eforth and bigforth all work under that.  The "run under" thing is silly, yes.  You could send them a disk image with Enth and your program, for instance.
20:54:53 <I440r> none of them is a REAL forth
20:55:00 <I440r> except e forth
20:55:10 <I440r> but thats not a very GOOD forth
20:55:18 <cleverdra> eforth is a real Forth?  Because it's written in assembly?
20:55:22 <I440r> gforth is definatly NOT a contender
20:55:24 <I440r> no
20:55:27 <I440r> well
20:55:28 <I440r> partly
20:55:40 <cleverdra> Why then?  Please define exactly what a REAL forth is.
20:55:46 <I440r> its not totally real
20:55:51 <I440r> it cant metacompile itself
20:55:58 <I440r> any forth not written in forth is not a forth
20:56:11 <Trey> I440r: you need a new hobby.
20:56:12 <I440r> add an assembler to eforth and it can metacompile iteself
20:56:19 <I440r> how so
20:56:27 <notjunkd> lol
20:56:46 <I440r> if i cant edit forth sources and compile them into a new forht compiler its not forth
20:57:05 <Trey> Whatever.
20:57:08 <I440r> i hate c so bad - its the most over-rated pile of shit language after java and vb
20:57:16 <I440r> it fscking depresses me
20:57:22 <I440r> im looking for a fscking job
20:57:30 <I440r> and all i can find in the listings are
20:57:45 <I440r> real time embedded control using c++ OOP and some bullshit RTOS
20:57:55 <I440r> thats NOT fscking real time embedded control :(
20:57:55 <cleverdra> I agree that, to me, a Forth written primarily in Forth with an assembler and a metacompiler would be an optimal Forth environment, but I do not see all those other C Forths and assembler Forths as being unforthy.
20:58:17 <I440r> an assembler forth is not disqualified
20:58:22 <I440r> a c forth automatically is
20:58:27 <I440r> its NOT forth
20:59:09 <cleverdra> Why isn't it?  gforth is direct/indirect threaded, very fast, and carefully optimized.  Its authors are smart and clever, and they do amazing things with GCC and some of its special features.
20:59:09 * notjunkd is away, not here.. mm kay?
20:59:35 <cleverdra> Gforth has an assembler, a disassembler, tools to build images and save the current state.  It even has a block editor, if not a terribly good one.
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20:59:51 <I440r> because i cannot compile gforth WITh gforth
21:00:03 <I440r> i have NO interest in any forth compiler I cannot modify myself
21:00:18 <I440r> and im not going to sepne a SINGLE minute tgrying to unwind all their clever c code
21:00:26 <I440r> c code is naturally obfuscated
21:00:42 <I440r> i can guarantee that the sources to gforth are one humongous gordian knot
21:00:53 <I440r> thanx but no thanx
21:01:08 <I440r> gforth is the prime reason im writing isforth
21:01:21 <I440r> if i ever get back into it that is
21:02:23 <cleverdra> I440r - gforth is still an oasis.  Not everyone who comes out of programming languages like Perl and Ruby and Scheme (like me) are ready to jump right into metacompiling and Forth and assembly.  C Forths are one way to dip a toe into the pool, so to speak.
21:03:11 <I440r> im still heavilly prejudiced against all c based notforths :P
21:03:14 <cleverdra> Trey - were you able to wake it?
21:04:04 <I440r> cleverdra: what was the definition you had in the topic to do hello world ?
21:04:22 <I440r> you had 0 parse but isnt the string stored as a counted string not ascii z 
21:04:36 <cleverdra> I440r - : puts 0 parse type ; puts Hello, world!
21:04:57 <Trey> cleverdra: no.
21:04:59 <cleverdra> I440r - neither.  the PARSE I used returns ( addr count )
21:05:08 <cleverdra> Trey - hm, OK.  One sec.
21:05:35 <I440r> what is the 0 parameter for ?
21:07:51 <cleverdra> I440r - in line-oriented Forths, that basically means: read until the end of the line, because there won't be a '0' char in it.
21:08:26 <cleverdra> Trey - I see.  CLOCK is in the HIDDEN wordset
21:08:45 <cleverdra> Trey - don't try to WAKE it's return, though!
21:08:45 <I440r> k
21:09:19 <I440r> sounds weird to me - cr/lf shud be totally ignored
21:09:20 * cleverdra checks on something.
21:10:42 * cleverdra hums.
21:11:19 <cleverdra> OK, CLOCK WAKE MULTI as done in source.f also doesn't work.  This would be easier to do if I didn't have to run between rooms.
21:12:29 <Trey> heh
21:12:43 <I440r> telnet :)
21:14:43 <cleverdra> I440r - one of the mentioned machines is running Flux, but isn't on any kind of LAN anyway.
21:15:38 <I440r> :)
21:16:01 * Trey has all of the machines on a KVM switch.
21:16:18 <cleverdra> Trey - aw, I want one of those =(
21:16:30 * cleverdra stares at the output of his .TASKS confusedly.
21:16:32 <cleverdra> OK.
21:16:38 <cleverdra> edit
21:16:45 <cleverdra> ( I'm doing Enth commands here )
21:17:14 <cleverdra> also hidden task: clocked clocked ' time task! clocked wake multi
21:17:37 <cleverdra> ( this works, and clocked is AWAKE, but NOTHING VISIBLE HAPPENS! )
21:17:56 <Trey> heh
21:18:51 <cleverdra> running TIME works, however.  It just locks your current FOCUS task up because it never returns.
21:19:19 <cleverdra> OK, I'm taking all this as a big message to *learn multitasking* in Enth.
21:19:37 <cleverdra> Trey - see the bottom of source.f -- that's where the CLOCK task is created and initialized.
21:19:55 <Trey> Enth lacks much in the way of usefull multitasking features.
21:20:22 <cleverdra> What features would you want in it?
21:22:17 <cleverdra> I can see a general 'interrupt' not being a bad idea, but that'd sort-of break the idea of round-robin multitasking.
21:22:56 * cleverdra notes that running TIME actually locks up all of Enth.  He's not sure why.  hitting ESC doesn't switch tasks.
21:22:57 <Trey> I don't think round-robin multitasking makes the best use of the x86 CPUs.
21:22:59 <I440r> pre-emptive ?
21:23:07 <I440r> y not cooperative
21:23:17 <cleverdra> I /know/ time has PAUSE.
21:23:18 <Trey> Yeah, I want pre-emptive multitasking.
21:23:28 <I440r> ahaok
21:23:41 <I440r> more difficlter :)
21:24:19 <Trey> Oh well.
21:24:21 <cleverdra> Trey - how would you implement pre-emptive multitasking?
21:26:10 <Trey> The usual way: RTC interrupt, etc.
21:26:35 <I440r> in forth ?
21:27:13 <Trey> Lots of thought needs to go into how to divvy up the address space for stacks, etc.
21:27:29 <I440r> how about next checks current time against max time and switches context if greater
21:27:32 <Trey> Also, I'd have real, separate processes with threads.
21:28:48 <Trey> But this involves a lot more OS than Enth currently has.
21:29:02 <I440r> 3 root    18  0    0    0    0 SW    49.0   0.0  11:31 kapm-idled
21:29:08 <cleverdra> Yes.  I doubt that Sean'll implement any of that.
21:29:23 <I440r> grrr why is kapm-idled taking 50% cpu!!
21:29:24 <cleverdra> So, it's on your head and anothers.
21:29:51 <Trey> cleverdra: I don't expect him to.  _I_ want that in my stand-alone forth, and I want to use Enth to bootstrap it.
21:30:55 <cleverdra> Trey - cool.
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22:03:44 <I440r> im bored :(
22:04:39 <Trey> Work on isforth.
22:04:51 <I440r> yea
22:04:54 <I440r> i know
22:04:57 <I440r> i wanna
22:05:03 <I440r> but i cant seem to get into it
22:05:13 <I440r> i open a source file and stare at it blankly
22:06:41 <I440r> ive got tcn's files here
22:07:03 <I440r> and they dont even compile and he is in some damned commune till teh end of the month and then he mite go on some trip someplace
22:07:04 <I440r> grr
22:07:55 <I440r> i need some motivation
22:08:08 <I440r> i hardly do a fscking thing all day
22:08:11 <I440r> bleh
22:09:51 <I440r> i wanna be working on it i just cant seem to do it rite now
22:09:56 <I440r> i get like this every so often
22:09:58 <I440r> coders block
22:12:31 <Trey> :-(
22:13:37 <I440r> yea
22:13:51 <I440r> it doesnt usually last very long and once i get over it the code flows like water :)
22:16:06 <I440r> i got alot on my mind rite now - buying a house
22:16:11 <I440r> looking for a job
22:16:13 <I440r> need a woman
22:16:14 <I440r> hehe
22:29:29 <Trey> Women don't help you code faster.
22:29:38 <I440r> :)
22:29:38 <Trey> Trust Me (tm)
22:29:42 <I440r> heeh
22:33:09 <I440r> i dont code fast
22:33:18 <I440r> i code right (tm)
22:52:35 <Trey> Good night, all.
22:52:39 * Trey has idled: sleeping
22:53:47 * cleverdra sends an email to chuck.
22:53:47 <cleverdra> g'night, Trey.
23:03:58 <I440r> :)
23:04:14 <I440r> u mean THE chuck ?
23:09:14 <cleverdra> yup.
23:09:23 <cleverdra> otherwise I would've qualified 'chuck' =)
23:09:27 <I440r> :)
23:09:38 <I440r> would he respond ?
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23:11:06 <cleverdra> I dunno.
23:11:09 --- mode: cleverdra set mode: +o I440r
23:11:16 <cleverdra> I'll see, I guess.
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23:11:34 <I440r> :)
23:12:27 --- mode: cleverdra set mode: +o MrSeattle
23:12:32 * cleverdra sighs.
23:12:45 <cleverdra> I'll have to save $100 for a MuP21 evaluation kit.
23:13:18 <cleverdra> it's only got 4/6 cells of stack =)
23:23:23 <I440r> :)
23:23:32 <I440r> thats all ?
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23:50:01 --- nick: MrSeattle -> MrReach
23:50:46 <I440r> hi
23:50:53 <MrReach> well, I'm sun burnt and bug eaten ... pretty good vacation
23:50:56 <MrReach> howdy
23:51:03 <I440r> hehehe
23:51:41 <I440r> listening to mp3 of freddie king
23:51:43 <MrReach> went to Puget Sound, as you've probably guessed ...
23:51:45 <I440r> the stumble
23:51:49 <I440r> awesome!
23:51:55 <MrReach> my wife thought I was totally insane ...
23:51:59 <I440r> hehe
23:52:32 <MrReach> when I started wandering around the pier in Anacortes offering a $50 bill to anyone who would take us out to a specific island
23:52:45 <I440r> :)
23:52:53 <I440r> anyone bite ?
23:52:57 <MrReach> a guy who had sailed in for an antique boat show show took us up on it
23:53:17 <MrReach> it was a 1952 hand-crafted sailing schooner
23:53:35 <MrReach> absolutely gorgeous mahogany woodwork
23:54:00 <MrReach> spent 5 hours with him
23:54:04 <I440r> wow!
23:54:13 <I440r> mega cool!
23:54:31 <MrReach> he retired 8 months ago from TWA, where he had been a pilot for 25 years
23:54:31 <I440r> bet that boat cost a bit :)
23:55:01 <MrReach> hmmm ... not really ... it was only 28' at the waterline
23:55:12 <I440r> :)
23:55:19 <MrReach> 36' including the bowsprit and the stern bridge
23:55:42 <MrReach> he'd been building on it for two years, though ... had a BUNCH into it
23:56:07 <MrReach> (brand spanking new diesel engine, for example)
23:56:44 <MrReach> it was a wonderful afternoon ... I won't tell my wife until tomorrow that we were, technically speaking, hitchhiking
23:58:25 <MrReach> ever since I bought the FiberForm 19' speedboat two years ago ... she's hated the damn thing ... and the events surrounding it
23:58:42 <I440r> doh
23:58:53 <MrReach> now, all the way home, she talked about getting the stern drive fixed and getting it in the water
23:59:06 <I440r> hehehe
23:59:10 <I440r> ;)
23:59:15 * MrReach grins like the cheshire cat, "Finally!"
23:59:20 <I440r> hehe
23:59:32 <I440r> my dad told me a realy cool joke yesterday
23:59:40 <MrReach> ok, let's hear it
23:59:41 <I440r> ur wife prolly wouldnt like it tho hehe
23:59:53 <MrReach> ten I won't TELL her    @:^>
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