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01:12:26 --- topic: set by rob_ert on [Wed Jun 27 13:18:41 2001]
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03:45:56 <rob_ert> hi I440r
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06:07:43 <muppie> mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
06:07:50 <rob_ert> Hi
06:07:58 <muppie> hi
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09:50:08 <speuler> g'day
09:50:28 <speuler> ny1 home ?
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10:16:22 <aaronl> ugh oh
10:16:24 * aaronl fears
10:16:37 <aaronl> MrReach: I'm harrassing the seller on AIM now
10:17:02 <aaronl> MrReach: he gave me conflicting directions :-)
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11:19:42 <MrReach> heh
11:27:09 <aaronl> GOO GOO GOO JOOB!
11:27:18 <MrReach> g'day
11:27:24 <MrReach> missed speuler, I see
11:27:25 <aaronl> hey
11:27:48 <MrReach> how is the story with your monitor turning out?
11:27:56 <aaronl> heheh
11:28:00 <aaronl> i'm going to pick it up tomorrow
11:28:16 <MrReach> gonna see it work?
11:28:20 <aaronl> hope so
11:28:37 <rob_ert_aw_ay> Mister city policeman sitting pretty poilicemen in a row
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11:28:43 <rob_ert> Hi
11:28:57 <MrReach> greetings, rob_ert
11:29:20 <aaronl> I'm crying
11:29:23 <rob_ert> You too. Mr MrReach
11:29:32 <rob_ert> See how they run like pigs from a gun.
11:29:33 <MrReach> why, aaronl
11:29:35 <MrReach> ??
11:29:39 <aaronl> Sitting in an english garden, waiting for the sun
11:29:45 <aaronl> ...
11:29:50 <rob_ert> If the sun dont come
11:29:59 <rob_ert> you get a tan from standing in the english rain
11:30:15 <aaronl> I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all togehter
11:30:17 <MrReach> heh
11:30:24 <aaronl> see how they run like pigs from a gun see how they fly
11:30:27 <aaronl> i'm cryin'
11:30:30 <aaronl> sitting on a cornflake
11:30:31 <rob_ert> Damn, how can you remember that first line?
11:30:32 <aaronl> waiting for the van to come
11:30:38 <aaronl> i'm listening to it (:
11:30:43 <rob_ert> Me too =)
11:31:06 <rob_ert> see how the fly from lucy in the sky see how they run
11:31:08 <rob_ert> ...
11:31:11 <aaronl> i have it cranked up to drown out the construction noise
11:31:20 <aaronl> I'm cryiiiiiinnn
11:31:21 <rob_ert> hehe
11:31:28 <rob_ert> yeallow matter custard
11:31:30 <aaronl> Dripping from a dead dog's eye
11:31:40 <aaronl> I am the egg man
11:31:41 <rob_ert> boy you've been a naughty girl
11:31:42 <aaronl> they are the eggmen
11:31:45 <aaronl> I am the walrus!
11:31:50 <aaronl> GOO GOO GOO JOOB
11:31:51 <rob_ert> go go go joooob!
11:32:22 <aaronl> i can't pick up the stuff at the end
11:32:29 <aaronl> don't you think the joker laughs at you?
11:32:34 <aaronl> ho ho ho he he he ha ha ha
11:32:43 <rob_ert> sebmolina pilchard
11:32:49 <MrReach> look it up on a lyrics page
11:32:49 <rob_ert> climibin up the eifell tower
11:32:57 <aaronl> man you should have seen the kick in edgar alan poe
11:33:34 <rob_ert> You have a fast connection?
11:33:40 <aaronl> yeah
11:34:22 <aaronl> hmm
11:34:24 <rob_ert> Ï have hundreds of songs and a web server (if you want something)
11:34:31 <aaronl> none of the lyrics pages have the background stuff
11:34:33 <aaronl> url?
11:34:38 <aaronl> IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO TODAY
11:34:43 <aaronl> Sgt pepper told his band to play
11:34:44 <rob_ert> SGT PETTERS
11:34:51 <rob_ert> ops
11:35:02 <aaronl> sure, url/
11:35:15 <rob_ert> I haent uploaded anything yet
11:35:19 <aaronl> oh hehe
11:35:22 <aaronl> what do you have?
11:35:28 <aaronl> or you can dcc stuff
11:35:46 <rob_ert> http://ostling.no-ip.com/¨aaronl
11:35:50 <rob_ert> http://ostling.no-ip.com/~aaronl
11:36:03 <aaronl> umm, 404 :(
11:36:07 <rob_ert> ?
11:36:14 <rob_ert> try a slash after that
11:36:15 <aaronl> oh, it's there now
11:36:25 <rob_ert> ok
11:36:31 <rob_ert> tell me what to copy there ;)
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11:36:49 <aaronl> eh, oop
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11:39:33 <rob_ert> hmm
11:39:37 <rob_ert> now im back
11:39:44 <aaronl> heh
11:39:46 <aaronl> there you are
11:39:56 <rob_ert> tell me if there is anythign you want uploaded to there
11:40:07 <aaronl> hmm
11:40:13 <aaronl> do you have Yellow Submarine (the album)?
11:40:21 <rob_ert> Not the whole album
11:40:27 <rob_ert> But I have most of the songs
11:40:37 <rob_ert> (except the crappy intrumental songs)
11:40:38 <aaronl> I have 603mb of beatles stuff :)
11:40:43 <aaronl> but only one song from that album..
11:40:47 <rob_ert> I have 810 mb
11:40:52 <rob_ert> What song?
11:40:59 <rob_ert> Hye Bulldog?
11:41:02 <aaronl> sure
11:41:02 <rob_ert> Hey Bulldog?
11:41:14 <rob_ert> Only a northen song?
11:41:17 <rob_ert> you have that one?
11:41:27 <aaronl> No, neither
11:41:35 <aaronl> Hmm, i don't even have hey jude! Wow!
11:41:39 <rob_ert> Hehe
11:41:40 * aaronl slaps himself
11:41:46 <rob_ert> Want some anthology stuff also?
11:42:02 <rob_ert> You have whole abbey road, revolver, sgt peppers, and let it be?
11:42:03 <aaronl> umm, sure
11:42:08 <aaronl> yes, i have those
11:42:13 <aaronl> well
11:42:23 <rob_ert> all songs on them?
11:42:26 <aaronl> i think i may be missing a few songs from abbey road
11:42:37 <rob_ert> what songs?
11:43:39 <rob_ert> I've coped 3 versions of "Hey bulldog" and "Only a northen song"
11:43:56 <rob_ert> Want the video to "Hey bulldog" too?
11:44:02 <aaronl> I have: Come together, I want you, Sun King, Mean Mr Mustard, Good Day Sunshine, She Came In thru the bathroom window, Because, Her Majesty, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, Something, Oh! Darling, Octopus' garden, Polythene Pam, You never give me your money (whew)
11:44:07 <aaronl> how fast is your connection?
11:44:18 <rob_ert> about 50-60Kbyte/sec
11:44:26 <aaronl> nice
11:44:51 <rob_ert> Good Day Sunshine is NIT on abbey road
11:44:57 <rob_ert> you maybe mean "Here comes the sun"?
11:45:41 <rob_ert> I think your abbey road is complete...
11:46:13 <aaronl> yeah, i have here comes the sun
11:46:35 <aaronl> do you have "She's a woman"?
11:46:44 <rob_ert> Yeah
11:47:07 <aaronl> thanks
11:47:44 <aaronl> oh, i do have hey jude
11:47:45 <aaronl> *phew*
11:47:49 <rob_ert> hehe
11:48:24 <aaronl> I have the 1967-1970 two-disc but the problem is that duplicates what's on the other cd's
11:48:33 <aaronl> so to avoid duplication some of the cd's are incomplete
11:48:45 <aaronl> that's bad. i should just put those songs in the directory of the album they really come from
11:49:21 <rob_ert> you have all songs on the white album?
11:49:33 <aaronl> yes
11:49:35 <rob_ert> I've uploaded a demo of while my giutar...
11:49:41 <rob_ert> and other stuff too
11:49:42 <aaronl> well, i think
11:49:47 <rob_ert> that demo is good
11:49:50 <rob_ert> =)
11:50:07 <aaronl> i have 17 on the first disc .. is that right?
11:50:17 <rob_ert> Hmm... think so
11:50:22 <rob_ert> 30 total, right?
11:50:24 <aaronl> Oooh, A Day In The Life!!!
11:50:42 <aaronl> yes, 30 total
11:50:42 <rob_ert> yeah, I'm uploading anthology version
11:50:55 <rob_ert> want yet another version of a day in the lofe<+
11:50:57 <rob_ert> want yet another version of a day in the life?
11:51:10 <aaronl> sure!
11:51:22 <rob_ert> I'm uploading files all the time
11:51:58 <aaronl> yeah, i noticed =)
11:52:04 <rob_ert> want a list of all songs?
11:52:10 <aaronl> sure
11:52:12 <rob_ert> I could dir >list
11:52:16 <rob_ert> and upload that
11:52:21 <aaronl> this is really cool because i'm from a post-beatles generation
11:52:29 <aaronl> all i really ahd to go on before MP3's were my dad's tapes
11:52:30 * rob_ert is born '86
11:52:36 <aaronl> 85 here
11:52:39 <rob_ert> I had some old LP's
11:53:42 <aaronl> yay, lots of strawberry fields!
11:53:48 <rob_ert> Hehe
11:53:54 <rob_ert> list.txt
11:55:40 <aaronl> what do you think of Let It Be?
11:55:42 <aaronl> I have two versions
11:55:50 <aaronl> one has the electric guitar solo -- i like that one
11:55:54 <rob_ert> I have the video =)
11:56:00 <aaronl> the other one (disappointingly) doens't have that
11:56:01 <rob_ert> With the guitar solo
11:56:47 <aaronl> yeah, that's the best part
11:57:17 <aaronl> thanks so much for all this
11:57:21 <aaronl> how big are the videos?
11:57:21 <rob_ert> hehe, np
11:57:31 <rob_ert> about 20-50MB each
11:57:40 <aaronl> hmm. what format?
11:58:16 <rob_ert> .avi and .mpg
11:58:22 <aaronl> .mpg i can handle
11:58:26 <rob_ert> I also have some rolling stones videos
11:58:36 <rob_ert> ok, only .mpg's then
11:59:08 <aaronl> listening to the anthology Walrus now
11:59:48 * rob_ert too
12:00:13 <MrReach> hmmmm....
12:00:17 <rob_ert> ?
12:00:54 <MrReach> I was thinking about how a optimised native-code forth compiler might handle local variables
12:00:55 <aaronl> umm
12:01:00 <aaronl> at 01:40 it does something weird
12:01:27 <rob_ert> hehe, yeah
12:01:32 <MrReach> if done right, they could be lightening-fast ... head-to-head with C
12:01:35 <rob_ert> begin singing to early
12:01:53 <rob_ert> local variables?
12:01:56 <aaronl> MrReach: i don't doubt it
12:02:02 <rob_ert> do forth have local vars? using stack?
12:02:38 <MrReach> the prob I'm having, though, is how to use the "Return, discard stack frame" instruction on the x86 w/o bunging the inlining optimiser
12:03:05 <aaronl> ah, yeah
12:03:10 * rob_ert can't solve that... he doesn't even know forth =(
12:03:13 <rob_ert> (yet)
12:03:25 <MrReach> with that kind of return, you can't just copy the code into the new definition
12:04:24 <MrReach> rob_ert: local vars is an often provided extension
12:05:10 <rob_ert> ok
12:05:29 <MrReach> they look and act like VALUEs, but are scoped to the current definition
12:07:05 <MrReach> needless to say, they are EXTREMELY system dependant ... and so should be written by system implementor ... not application programmer
12:08:00 <MrReach> there is an ANS specification for the tools to implement locals, though ... so the system dep stuff can be written by the implementor, and the syntax of the locals can be written by the application writer
12:08:22 <rob_ert> I'll read some forth intro I think
12:08:38 <MrReach> (there were several flavors of locals in use when the standard was written)
12:08:38 * rob_ert doesn't understand all of what MrReach is talking about
12:08:49 <MrReach> which part?
12:09:32 * rob_ert was just not reading... sorry
12:09:42 <rob_ert> But I'll still learn forth ;)
12:09:45 <MrReach> the code of locals is often tricky, but the concepts are pretty simple
12:09:54 <rob_ert> ok
12:10:03 <aaronl> strawberry fields forever
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12:10:11 <MrReach> wb, nate37
12:10:22 <rob_ert> <aaronl> what videos do you want?
12:10:33 <nate37> thanks
12:10:35 <aaronl> Let it Be, if you have that in mpeg
12:10:49 <rob_ert> yes, i have that
12:10:51 <nate37> stupid bitchx scrollback buffer bugs
12:10:53 <rob_ert> wait i'll upload it
12:10:57 <nate37> videos?
12:11:02 <MrReach> how does Napster look now?
12:11:07 <aaronl> pretty fucked
12:11:08 <MrReach> is it like totally empty?
12:11:10 <rob_ert> 55MB
12:11:13 <rob_ert> yes
12:11:23 <MrReach> that's too damn bad
12:11:30 <nate37> 55MB? heh
12:11:46 <MrReach> we really need to rethink how we manage intellectual property
12:12:11 <nate37> yes..
12:12:36 <aaronl> What is Suicide?
12:12:41 <MrReach> music is pretty easy ... bands release music for free, make their money in live performance
12:12:55 <rob_ert> Siucide is a demo
12:12:59 <nate37> if you get movies and mp3s... illegally but you make free software... can't they just null themselves out
12:13:00 <nate37> heh
12:13:01 <rob_ert> McCratney wrote it
12:13:02 <MrReach> although some bands don't have a "live performance" ... hmmm
12:13:05 <rob_ert> never released
12:13:24 <rob_ert> Heh
12:13:29 <aaronl> the motherfuckers
12:13:30 <MrReach> nate37: how do you mean "null themselves"???
12:13:36 <rob_ert> Beatles couldn't perform their good songs live!
12:14:01 <rob_ert> Try to do "Happiness is a warm gun", "Because", "I want to" live
12:14:03 <nate37> MrReach: balences i mean
12:14:16 <MrReach> I'm thinking bands like Enigma, which is a guy in a hut on an island off the south of France ... synthesised
12:14:27 <MrReach> nate37: can you give an example?
12:14:31 <aaronl> rob_ert: those all rule.
12:14:36 <aaronl> rob_ert: and are hard to do live
12:15:00 <nate37> if you create free software or whatever but you also get mp3s and movies.. illegally but free can't it all just even out 
12:15:00 <nate37> :p
12:15:10 <MrReach> there would be CD versions available, of course, for listening in the car
12:15:25 <rob_ert> you can burn mp3s
12:15:41 <nate37> yup
12:15:48 <nate37> and fit more songs on cd
12:15:49 <aaronl> Oh, i have that While My Guitar Gently Weeps demo
12:15:50 <rob_ert> aaronl: Yes, the rule. Drug music can't be performed live, yes
12:15:53 <MrReach> well, it's not illegal to write software that might be used to handle illegal data
12:15:55 <rob_ert> It's good
12:15:56 <nate37> by not doing cd-audio format
12:16:34 <aaronl> rob_ert: although I like the white album version better
12:16:37 <MrReach> nate37: I have 50-80 hours of starstreams archived that way, but can't play it in the car
12:16:41 <aaronl> MrReach: yes it is. witness napster
12:17:03 <MrReach> that is WHY napster stayed up for so long
12:17:15 <MrReach> technically, what napster was doing was above board
12:17:18 <rob_ert> aaronl: You want something from The Who, The Kinks, Stones, Flowerpot Men etc.?
12:17:21 <MrReach> legal
12:17:28 <aaronl> rob_ert: I like the Who and the Stones
12:17:39 * aaronl is away: brb .. eating
12:17:40 <nate37> MrReach: there are more and more portable mp3 cdrom players availble
12:17:42 <rob_ert> ok
12:17:43 * nate37 HMMS
12:17:49 <nate37> i just relized sony makes one
12:17:50 <MrReach> but you and I should both agree that napster totally screwed intellectual property rights
12:18:01 <nate37> heh yes
12:18:09 <MrReach> nate37: I'll buy one as the price comes down
12:18:16 <nate37> MrReach: i've seen them for $100
12:18:21 <nate37> actually little lower then that
12:18:29 <nate37> altho the good ones are $200 still
12:19:03 <MrReach> I  liked being able to download all that music ... but agree that it was unfair
12:19:24 <nate37> same....
12:19:30 <rob_ert> If you take 20$ for a CD...
12:19:40 <rob_ert> don't expect anyone to buy it
12:19:51 <MrReach> depends on the cd
12:20:06 <rob_ert> Abbay Road and Revolver maybe is wort it
12:20:06 <MrReach> music? no even
12:20:13 <rob_ert> but not much else
12:20:29 <MrReach> real estate investment course? easy purchase
12:21:14 <nate37> yea they are mostly $18 :(
12:21:32 <nate37> but on the other hand..
12:21:55 <nate37> and this is a point somebody i know that performs professionally in a band..
12:22:06 <nate37> artists only get like $50 per cd
12:22:11 <rob_ert> heh
12:22:13 <rob_ert> ok
12:22:14 <rob_ert> ...
12:22:26 <nate37> so if they sold their music online
12:22:27 <MrReach> you mean $500?
12:22:28 <rob_ert> $.5 you mean?
12:22:40 <MrReach> heh
12:22:41 <nate37> MrReach: when you buy a $18 cd they only get small percent
12:22:45 <nate37> ermmm
12:22:46 <nate37> yes
12:22:48 <nate37> 50 cents
12:22:49 <nate37> sorry
12:22:50 <nate37> :)
12:22:53 <nate37> $.5
12:22:55 <MrReach> yes, I know that
12:23:02 <nate37> so if they sold an album online
12:23:06 <nate37> $1 each
12:23:15 <MrReach> there is a market nich, there ... if one of you is ready to take it on
12:23:16 <nate37> and most would go directly to them
12:23:20 <nate37> well $1 maybe bit small
12:23:36 <nate37> but like even $5 seems damn cheap per album compared to $18
12:23:46 <rob_ert> $0 seems better
12:23:47 <MrReach> depends if you're ready to get into the advertising biz
12:24:04 <MrReach> and promotion
12:24:14 <nate37> yup
12:24:24 <nate37> plus studio charges hmm
12:24:42 <MrReach> ok, there's several issues
12:24:48 <nate37> but definatly advertising would be a big thing that would have to be done
12:24:56 <MrReach> let them use independant studios
12:25:32 <MrReach> right now, the artist pays studio charges, does the skull work and practice
12:26:01 <MrReach> produces the album, and then sells the rights to the dist company
12:26:17 <MrReach> the dist comp is free to sit on that album and NOT publish it
12:26:34 <nate37> really?
12:26:49 <MrReach> the price is often a flat, one-time payment
12:26:54 <nate37> well fsck the dist companies then
12:27:12 <nate37> marketting should be that much
12:27:14 <MrReach> or if it's a percentage, the dist company sets the CD's price
12:27:22 * rob_ert likes Back Street Boys
12:27:34 * rob_ert is trying to scare and disguise you...
12:27:55 <MrReach> the artist often gets shafted, hard
12:27:55 * nate37 already ran away
12:28:15 <nate37> so then it would be good to do it directly to artist
12:28:20 <nate37> except for marketing
12:28:38 <MrReach> there's no reason a single artist should not be able to make a living selling only 1,000 CDs/mo
12:28:40 <nate37> but firms could be setup to do low-cost artist marketing and they get a perecentage of mp3 sales maybe
12:28:58 <MrReach> yes, there's all kinds of strategies
12:29:06 <MrReach> and we're going to start seeing them shortly
12:29:08 <nate37> or flat-fee of course hmm
12:29:11 <nate37> i hope so
12:29:18 <MrReach> independent distribution companies
12:29:36 <MrReach> and they will form coalitions, to dovetail their advertising
12:30:07 <rob_ert> record companies are bandits...
12:30:44 <MrReach> one could approach an artist and say "We'll publish your album, split the raw proceeds 50/50 if we don't advertise ... otherwise 70/30"
12:30:46 <nate37> MrReach: i just hope that the independent dist comps won't start acting like regular record companies
12:30:54 <nate37> MrReach : which could happen to a point
12:31:11 <MrReach> nate37: as soon as they do, new comapnies will crop up
12:31:24 <nate37> MrReach: Well unless the artist keeps all control of their music.. but there might be a harder time then getting advertising cheap
12:31:48 <MrReach> well, the artist might retain full rights to the album
12:32:17 <MrReach> for example, if I spend $10,000 to advertise an artist ... I get a 6mo exclusive lease on the rights
12:33:03 <MrReach> that way, if they think I'm futzing around, they can go elsewhere
12:33:16 <nate37> yea..
12:33:35 <MrReach> If I do my job right, I'll have much better advertising ability than single artists
12:33:55 <MrReach> and am fairly competing against companies similar to my own
12:34:45 <nate37> my dad is founder of web advertising company
12:34:54 <MrReach> which one?
12:34:58 <nate37> but it mainly focuses on realestate.. new home builders
12:35:01 <nate37> www.gardenofe.com
12:35:06 <nate37> not *eden*
12:35:09 <nate37> not religous
12:35:22 <nate37> he said onetime a client thoguht it was eden and ended up on pr0n site heh
12:36:13 <MrReach> how's his company doing?
12:36:29 * MrReach checks out the porn sight
12:36:47 <nate37> its doing well
12:36:54 <nate37> lots of clients
12:37:04 <nate37> and he is getting hired out as professional photographer now
12:37:09 <nate37> which is kinda wierd
12:37:59 <MrReach> duh! that's not porn! It redirects to www.supermodel.com
12:38:17 <nate37> heh
12:38:21 <nate37> i havn't gone there, no idea
12:38:29 * MrReach shakes his head, "Some people."
12:38:36 <nate37> eheh
12:39:10 <MrReach> the market is flooded with web-developers
12:39:29 <MrReach> but it's sometimes hard to find someone who knows film backwards and forwards
12:39:42 <nate37> of course but this is online advertising agency
12:39:46 <MrReach> and how to set-up good promotional shots
12:39:53 <nate37> actually most of it is real agency plus web devel
12:40:03 <MrReach> yes, i saw that
12:40:11 <aaronl> rob_ert: eek, what happened?
12:40:19 <aaronl> rob_ert: my download stalled at 51%
12:40:38 <MrReach> some strategy coaching
12:40:42 <rob_ert> don't know
12:40:59 <rob_ert> The server is on the same computer as the router
12:41:03 <rob_ert> so I know it's on ;)
12:42:18 <aaronl> haha
12:42:55 <aaronl> PHEW
12:42:57 * aaronl hugs wget
12:43:03 <aaronl> it was able to continue the download
12:43:07 <rob_ert> nice =)
12:43:18 <rob_ert> Tell me if there's some more songs you want uploaded
12:43:21 <rob_ert> (or videos)
12:43:23 <aaronl> ok
12:43:31 <rob_ert> I have a video from the rooftop concert
12:43:41 <aaronl> is Inner Light good?
12:43:44 <rob_ert> Hehe
12:43:50 <rob_ert> Na, it's different
12:44:00 <rob_ert> But George Harrison wrote it
12:44:04 <rob_ert> so you have to hear it
12:44:16 <aaronl> hehe
12:44:30 <rob_ert> Uploaded that and india
12:44:44 <rob_ert> you have india?
12:44:48 <aaronl> no
12:45:19 <rob_ert> i uploaded it, so you should be able to get it now
12:45:25 <rob_ert> and inner light
12:46:04 <aaronl> is harrison the guy singing in the beginning of the movie you gave me?
12:46:15 <rob_ert> ?
12:46:23 <rob_ert> You know how Harrison look?
12:46:32 <rob_ert> Paul is singing on let it be
12:46:37 <aaronl> oh
12:46:40 <rob_ert> Harrison plays the giutar solo
12:46:43 <aaronl> yeah
12:46:48 <rob_ert> he's in the background chorus
12:47:20 <aaronl> yeah, i see him now
12:47:49 <rob_ert> hehe =)
12:48:00 <rob_ert> I have a lot of Harrisons solo songs
12:48:12 <rob_ert> well, not a lot
12:48:14 <rob_ert> 23 ;)
12:48:24 <rob_ert> also some lennon solo songs
12:48:33 <rob_ert> Cold Turkey
12:48:37 <rob_ert> Instant Karma
12:48:42 <rob_ert> Jealous Guy
12:48:49 <rob_ert> (you know I have Imagine)
12:48:56 <rob_ert> Starting Over
12:48:57 <rob_ert> etc.
12:50:41 <MrReach> blah, time to reboot this stupid windows machine
12:50:52 <rob_ert> Ok, see you =)
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12:56:44 <rob_ert> wb
12:56:56 <MrReach> danke
12:57:14 <MrReach> time for me to go soon, I've got to change out the wheel bearings in my car
12:57:26 <rob_ert> ok, see you :)
12:57:31 <aaronl> rob_ert: so, the video sounds different from the version i have
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12:57:57 <rob_ert> yah
12:58:42 <rob_ert> I have 3 versions of let t be
12:58:49 <aaronl> heh, i have 2
12:59:32 <rob_ert> what do you hear in the beginning of your other version (not the album) ?
12:59:36 <rob_ert> some talk?
12:59:44 <aaronl> no, nothing
12:59:52 <rob_ert> "are we supposed to get on the solo"... something
12:59:52 <aaronl> it sounds exactly like the video one
12:59:55 <rob_ert> ok
13:00:12 <rob_ert> I'll upload the two extra let it be versions then
13:00:28 <aaronl> cool
13:00:41 <rob_ert> Anthology - Let I be
13:00:45 <rob_ert> and et it be (live)
13:01:05 <aaronl> ah
13:01:18 <aaronl> listening to the album now
13:01:20 <aaronl> all
13:01:22 <aaronl> through the day
13:01:27 <aaronl> i me mine i me mine i me mine
13:01:30 <rob_ert> Yeah
13:01:32 <rob_ert> that's good
13:01:35 <rob_ert> I me mine
13:01:40 <aaronl> I I ME ME M 
13:01:41 <rob_ert> the last song they made
13:01:42 <aaronl> INE!
13:01:46 <aaronl> really?
13:01:52 <rob_ert> George Harrison wrote it
13:01:59 <aaronl> was let it be their last album?
13:02:05 <rob_ert> he and Lennon remixed it and made it double as long sometime april 70
13:02:09 <aaronl> (heh, i thought Free as a Bird was their last)
13:02:10 <rob_ert> yes
13:02:12 <rob_ert> Heh
13:02:19 <rob_ert> that's no real Beatles song
13:02:30 <rob_ert> Not from the classical period ;)
13:02:41 <rob_ert> But Real Love and Free As A Bird are good
13:02:52 <rob_ert> I have some versions of free as a bird
13:03:04 <rob_ert> and the videos to free as a bird and real love
13:03:19 <aaronl> i haven't heard Real Love .. at least not recently
13:03:22 <rob_ert> i have demos to real love and free as a bird
13:03:30 <rob_ert> I'll upload..
13:03:54 <aaronl> I i i i i
13:03:56 <aaronl> dig a pony
13:04:43 <rob_ert> I have the anthology version of that
13:04:47 <rob_ert> im uploading it
13:05:31 <aaronl> erm, you probably already have the album version of Let It Be?
13:05:31 <rob_ert> Have you downloaded "Anthology - And your bird can sing" ?
13:05:39 <aaronl> do you want to continue downloading it from me?
13:05:39 <rob_ert> Yes, I have ;)
13:05:40 <aaronl> no
13:05:53 <rob_ert> no, you can abort it
13:05:59 <rob_ert> I did
13:06:01 <rob_ert> ;)
13:06:17 <rob_ert> download that one (and your bird..
13:06:31 <aaronl> hmm, i didn't like the original of that
13:06:35 <aaronl> too much laughing ;-)
13:06:44 <rob_ert> Heh
13:07:02 <rob_ert> They're lauging a lot on this version
13:07:15 <rob_ert> and your bird can sing is good, i think
13:07:27 <rob_ert> I have a diffrenet version of lds
13:07:29 <rob_ert> I have a diffrenet version of lsd
13:07:29 <aaronl> hmm
13:07:37 <rob_ert> want that?
13:07:38 <aaronl> what are they saying at the beginning of Two Of Us?
13:07:50 <rob_ert> Hmm... DOn't know
13:07:56 <rob_ert> I could look it up
13:07:57 <rob_ert> wait
13:10:38 <rob_ert> didn't find it
13:10:58 <aaronl> Like a rollling stone
13:11:00 <aaronl> Like a rollling stone
13:11:04 <rob_ert> Dig it
13:11:05 <aaronl> Uh like the FBI
13:11:11 <aaronl> and the CIA
13:11:11 <rob_ert> Like the CIA
13:11:15 <aaronl> and the BBC
13:11:16 <rob_ert> hehe
13:11:19 <rob_ert> bb king
13:11:21 <aaronl> BB king
13:11:24 <aaronl> and doris day
13:11:25 <aaronl> dig it
13:12:03 <rob_ert> Tomorrow never knows
13:12:10 <rob_ert> you have that one, right?
13:12:30 <rob_ert> have you downloaded the video yet?
13:12:40 <rob_ert> oh, yes you have
13:12:47 <aaronl> yes
13:12:53 <aaronl> i like it
13:13:00 <rob_ert> anymore videos you would like to have?
13:13:04 <aaronl> also like Love You To
13:13:14 <rob_ert> yeah, that's also a Harrison song
13:13:31 <rob_ert> "Make love all day long, make love singing song"
13:14:56 <rob_ert> check video1.txt
13:15:03 <rob_ert> for a list of CD1
13:16:29 <aaronl> how about hey jude or LSD
13:16:40 <rob_ert> the videos?
13:16:42 <aaronl> yaenh
13:16:53 <rob_ert> Hey Jude is like the one you got
13:17:01 <rob_ert> and LSD is animated =)
13:17:13 <rob_ert> witch one do you want first?
13:17:34 <aaronl> LSD! :)
13:17:39 <rob_ert> didn't you get Hey Juse?
13:17:41 <rob_ert> didn't you get Hey Jude?
13:17:53 <rob_ert> Of course you'll get some acid, just wait
13:17:59 <aaronl> haha
13:18:15 <aaronl> ooh, you have ADayInTheLife
13:18:16 <rob_ert> I'm copying it right now
13:18:19 <rob_ert> Yah
13:18:21 <rob_ert> =)
13:18:31 <rob_ert> I have another CD with videos
13:19:03 <aaronl> 403: Forbidden
13:19:06 <aaronl> check the permissions
13:19:09 <rob_ert> hmmm
13:19:13 <rob_ert> what is forbidden?
13:19:20 <aaronl> the LSD movie
13:19:24 <aaronl> now it works
13:19:31 <rob_ert> can I remove Let It Be movie?
13:19:35 <aaronl> sure
13:20:00 <rob_ert> Want anymore from CD1, or do you want to se what's on CD2?
13:20:08 <aaronl> let's check out cd2
13:20:11 <rob_ert> oki
13:20:28 <aaronl> so btw i also like Pink Floyd and the Grateful Dead. lots of good stuff came out of the 60s and 70s i guess
13:20:43 <rob_ert> Pink Floyd has done some nice stuff
13:20:59 <rob_ert> havent' heard anyhitng from Grateful dead
13:21:12 <rob_ert> You heard something bby the flowerpot men?
13:21:20 <aaronl> no
13:21:27 <rob_ert> I have 2 songs from them
13:21:35 <rob_ert> I'll upload them. get them
13:22:46 <rob_ert> I'll also upload video2.txt
13:23:00 <rob_ert> but the damn explorer just crashed
13:23:10 <aaronl> hahahaha
13:23:19 <rob_ert> *very* funny...
13:23:37 <rob_ert> Damn, explorer contrall everything
13:23:40 <rob_ert> Damn, explorer control everything
13:23:49 <rob_ert> if i dissapear, wait
13:24:12 <rob_ert> I had to kill 2 dead programs
13:24:21 <rob_ert> let's see if the computer still works
13:24:39 <rob_ert> Yes :)
13:25:15 <rob_ert> Ok, you have some flowerpot men stuff, and video2.txt
13:25:27 <rob_ert> I'll now upload the compltete list with all mp3s
13:25:31 <rob_ert> in a few secs
13:26:09 <nate37> grateful dead rocks
13:26:28 <rob_ert> ok, total.txt contains a list all my songs
13:26:36 <rob_ert> can you recommend a good GD song?
13:26:51 <aaronl> Hmm
13:26:53 <aaronl> that's ... hard
13:27:11 <rob_ert> it is?
13:27:11 <aaronl> get Uncle John's Band to start with, i guess
13:27:22 <aaronl> no, it's just there are so many and they're all differnt
13:27:29 <rob_ert> hehe
13:27:44 <rob_ert> what is the best, do you think?
13:28:00 <aaronl> My favorite is "Terrapin station"
13:28:27 <rob_ert> You have video2.txt and total.txt ?
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13:29:15 <nate37> truckin
13:29:21 <nate37> ripple
13:29:23 <nate37> fire on the mountain
13:29:26 <aaronl> Yes, can i please have Paint it Black and Light My Fire?
13:29:30 <aaronl> nate37: all good
13:29:49 <rob_ert> Yes, ok
13:30:28 <aaronl> Dark Star
13:30:30 <aaronl> Passanger
13:31:03 <rob_ert> I'm uplading those videos now
13:31:11 <rob_ert> wait untile they're done
13:31:15 <aaronl> Estimated Prophet
13:31:16 <aaronl> thanks
13:31:18 <rob_ert> so you don't get permission denied
13:31:21 <rob_ert> ;)
13:31:29 <aaronl> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)
13:31:42 <aaronl> Dire WOld
13:31:45 <aaronl> Dire Wolf
13:31:54 <aaronl> Scarlet Begonias
13:31:54 <aaronl> hh
13:31:55 <aaronl> heh
13:32:00 <rob_ert> I'll download those in Morpheus
13:32:13 <aaronl> heh
13:33:21 <aaronl> Terrapin Station is my favorite song because of the middle/end
13:33:26 <aaronl> the first 6 minutes are _ok_
13:33:41 <aaronl> then it gets really good imo
13:33:52 <aaronl> not sure i'd reccomend it as a first dead song
13:34:06 <aaronl> are the uploads done?
13:34:14 <rob_ert> Yup
13:34:22 <aaronl> cool
13:35:49 <nate37> llet my inspriation flow in token rythm suggesting rythm
13:35:57 <nate37> that will not forsake me till my tale is told and done
13:37:49 <aaronl> yes
13:39:39 <rob_ert> aaronl: Do you have anything fun for me? :)
13:39:46 <rob_ert> like mp3s
13:40:05 <aaronl> hmm, perhaps
13:40:17 <rob_ert> could you send me a list?
13:40:23 <aaronl> sure
13:42:19 <nate37> rob_ert: accept
13:42:32 <aaronl> nate37: watcha sending him?
13:42:37 <nate37> grateful deads :)
13:42:44 <rob_ert> Thanx both
13:42:49 <aaronl> nate37: which?
13:42:58 <nate37> terrpin station
13:43:01 <nate37> then truckin
13:43:18 <aaronl> Yeah, cool
13:43:24 <aaronl> i have both :)
13:43:40 <nate37> aaronl: could you send me some? i only have truckin,terrpin station,jack a row, fire on the mountain and ripple
13:44:50 <aaronl> i used to have 4gb of live stuff
13:44:55 <aaronl> there's so much at gdlive.com
13:44:57 <aaronl> and grateful.org
13:45:02 <nate37> cool ok
13:45:33 <aaronl> it'll be faster than me sending them
13:45:51 <aaronl> i'm listening to 78-07-07-set2a
13:45:56 <rob_ert> Jefferson Airplane - Don't You Want Somebody To Love.mp3
13:45:58 <rob_ert> =)
13:46:08 <aaronl> that's the first one i heard Fire On The Mountain in
13:47:24 <rob_ert> thanks
13:47:35 <aaronl> np
13:47:54 <rob_ert> aaronl: 2 KB/S
13:47:57 <rob_ert> hmmm
13:48:07 <aaronl> sorry about that
13:48:09 <rob_ert> what connection do you have??
13:48:14 <aaronl> sending something to someone else at the meantime
13:48:19 <rob_ert> ok
13:48:23 <aaronl> i have 100kbps upstream, but it's being used heavily
13:48:32 <rob_ert> Ok
13:48:54 <aaronl> sorry
13:49:03 <rob_ert> I'll look at your list to get ideas, and then download from morpheus
13:49:05 <rob_ert> np
13:49:11 <aaronl> sure
13:49:15 <aaronl> it's not a very inspiring list
13:49:22 <rob_ert> hehe, over 2000 songs
13:49:33 <aaronl> and i'll be embarassed by the horrible lack of organization in the Beatles category
13:49:35 <aaronl> yes, i think 6.2GB
13:49:41 <rob_ert> WOW
13:49:55 <rob_ert> 1.5 GB here
13:50:04 <aaronl> well i have 115gb of space, so it's not a big deal
13:50:05 <rob_ert> but I have very much Beatles stuff
13:50:12 <rob_ert> 115 GB?
13:50:14 <rob_ert> I have 8
13:50:18 <nate37> 1.8GB here
13:50:27 <nate37> i have 40GB + 10GB + 6GB
13:50:29 <aaronl> 115 in my fileserver
13:51:04 <aaronl> /dev/hda2               198601     33149    155196  18% /
13:51:04 <aaronl> /dev/hda3               198601     82839    105506  44% /var
13:51:04 <aaronl> /dev/hda5              7310275   1275351   5656044  19% /backup
13:51:04 <aaronl> /dev/hda6              3958475    925628   2828049  25% /usr
13:51:04 <aaronl> /dev/hdc1             80038432  14345080  65693352  18% /archive
13:51:05 <aaronl> /dev/hdd1             20005480   7153856  12851624  36% /home
13:51:34 <nate37> 40GB in fileserver
13:51:37 <nate37> 20GB unpartitions
13:51:40 <nate37> unpartitioned
13:52:05 <rob_ert> My other computer has 80+210 MB
13:52:17 <aaronl> and she's gone
13:52:23 <aaronl> LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS
13:52:26 <aaronl> LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS
13:52:31 <aaronl> LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS
13:52:36 <aaronl> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
13:52:52 <rob_ert> =)
13:52:56 <aaronl> thanks
13:53:03 <rob_ert> Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
13:53:06 <rob_ert> Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
13:53:07 <rob_ert> Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
13:53:13 <rob_ert> AaaAAaaaaAAAaaaaAAAaaa
13:53:56 <rob_ert> That song is good
13:54:07 <rob_ert> Maybe is has some message
13:54:28 <rob_ert> (like: take LSD, or what do >you< think?)
13:54:41 <aaronl> Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
13:54:47 <rob_ert> Ya
13:55:04 <rob_ert> Mark the first letter in the nouns
13:55:29 <rob_ert> Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes and she's gone
13:55:39 <rob_ert> (not in that sentence)
13:57:11 <rob_ert> You've heard "Happiness is a warm gun"?
13:57:24 <rob_ert> That has something to do with drugs too...
13:57:26 <rob_ert> ;)
13:57:37 <aaronl> You seemed to imply that
13:57:38 <aaronl> i didn't know
13:58:25 <rob_ert> didn't know what?
13:58:37 <aaronl> that it had to do with drugs
13:59:06 <aaronl> ooh, can i have Eight Miles High?
13:59:11 <rob_ert> happiness is a warm gin, you mean?
13:59:12 <rob_ert> yes
13:59:23 <rob_ert> "I need a fix 'cause I'm going down..."
13:59:31 <aaronl> ahha
13:59:42 <aaronl> i was thinking about that the other day actuaklly
13:59:56 <rob_ert> Download 8miles now
14:00:02 <rob_ert> hehe
14:00:29 <rob_ert> you were thinking about if "I need a fix 'cause I'm going down..." has something to do wih heroin, or what?
14:00:39 <aaronl> probably
14:00:47 <aaronl> i don't know what be means by "going down"
14:00:51 <aaronl> sex? travel? :()
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14:01:05 <rob_ert> He has been high
14:01:08 <rob_ert> and what goes up
14:01:11 <futhin> hello all
14:01:11 <rob_ert> must go down ;)
14:01:13 <rob_ert> hi
14:01:15 <aaronl> oh, i see
14:01:21 <rob_ert> (i think)
14:02:10 <aaronl> that would make sense
14:02:21 <futhin> what's up?
14:03:16 <aaronl> me.
14:03:25 <aaronl> but i'm going down :-)
14:03:32 <rob_ert> lol
14:03:47 <futhin> go down on girls, they love that
14:03:58 <aaronl> yeah
14:05:59 <MrGone> yes, they do
14:06:00 <rob_ert> futhin: do you think a song with "I need a fix 'cause I'm going down..." in it has something to do with drugs?
14:06:44 <MrGone> women like it, too
14:07:06 <futhin> rob: yeah, prolly is drugs
14:08:18 <rob_ert> Hi MrGone...
14:08:39 <futhin> mrgone: heh, girls == women
14:09:00 <rob_ert> girls = flickor
14:09:06 <rob_ert> women = kvinnor
14:09:11 <rob_ert> (swedish lesson)
14:09:44 <aaronl> da
14:09:57 <rob_ert> da?
14:12:01 <rob_ert> aaronl: da?
14:12:44 <futhin> da is probably agreement
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14:21:20 <rob_ert> I never got a chanse to ask him
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14:22:44 <aaronl> eck. stupid dsl brifge.
14:22:59 <rob_ert> hehe
14:23:00 <rob_ert> wb
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14:28:09 <rob_ert> aaronl: want a live version of "shes a woman"?
14:28:31 <aaronl> i have one, thanks :)
14:28:43 <rob_ert> the live version?
14:29:17 <rob_ert> well, if you don't want it, you don't have to get it ;)
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18:21:06 <MrGone> haha!
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18:38:20 * MrReach is a happy camper!
18:38:56 * edrx is an unhappy everything
18:39:04 * edrx is an angry young alien
18:39:05 <MrReach> how so?
18:39:42 <MrReach> I just found the sound track to "The Lost Boys" at the local pawn shop
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18:48:25 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all
18:49:46 <edrx> oops, forgot to answer... I finished my relationship with my girlfriend, and even though our relationship was catastrophic at the end I am feeling weird
18:49:54 <edrx> can't concentrate in anything
18:50:00 <TheBlueWizard> hmm?
18:50:25 <MrReach> oh, dear
18:50:35 <MrReach> I'm sorry to hear about your trouble
18:51:03 <TheBlueWizard> me too
18:52:47 <edrx> and I got back to using my piercing (a PA :) and now my plan of banishing sex from my life for a while is becoming impossible to put in practice
18:53:14 <edrx> I hate testosterone
18:53:46 <TheBlueWizard> so you're saying you're finding the urge impossible to resist?
18:54:49 <edrx> yes - and one of the things I thought when I split with her (she's very jealous and very antisocial) was "now I'll be able to meet my friends, talk to people, etc"
18:56:00 <edrx> but that works only part of the time, the rest of the time I feel as a radioctive weirdo that must keep a safe distance from people
18:56:30 <TheBlueWizard> so you're saing she still hold some sway over you somehow?
18:56:57 <edrx> yes
18:57:21 <edrx> she wanted to get back, btw, but I don't want
18:58:15 <edrx> and there are other things happening
19:00:07 <edrx> I have to make the first "very serious" presentation at the university (20 mins, in a meeting on Logic, with several dinosaurs in the audience)
19:00:47 <TheBlueWizard> I recall you're majoring in math, specializing in 'topos' theory
19:00:55 <edrx> and I'm trying to find concentration to prepare it
19:01:30 <TheBlueWizard> so you gonna deliver it 20 min from now?!
19:01:33 <edrx> TheBlueWizard: yep - was it you that recommended me a site about logic for quantum computers?
19:02:06 <TheBlueWizard> yeah...I gave you a few URLs regarding quantum computation and quantum logic....
19:19:19 <edrx> TheBlueWizard: oh no, the talk will be 20 mins long, but it will be in a week
19:20:03 <edrx> I'll disconnect to try to program some stuff
19:20:06 <edrx> bye
19:20:18 <edrx> see ya
19:20:18 <TheBlueWizard> I see
19:20:21 <TheBlueWizard> bye
19:20:31 <TheBlueWizard> my misunderstanding
19:20:31 <edrx> take care everybody
19:20:36 <TheBlueWizard> bye :)
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19:42:04 <TheBlueWizard> got to go...bye!
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20:23:51 <cleverdra> hello #Forth
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20:34:20 <cleverdra> hey, Trey.
20:34:22 <Trey> Howdy cleverdra.
20:34:44 * Trey took some vacation time this week.
20:34:44 <cleverdra> I'm having the oddest conversation with a chinese person in #assembler.  What's up with you?
20:35:33 <Trey> Just checking the E-world I've ignored most of the week.
20:36:14 * cleverdra onds.
20:36:26 <Trey> Nods, even.
20:36:33 <cleverdra> Yes, that too =)
20:41:33 <cleverdra> here, something said earlier:
20:41:44 <cleverdra> <fairy> Are you a boy?
20:41:45 <cleverdra> > Yes :-/
20:41:45 <cleverdra> <fairy> how old are you?
20:41:45 <cleverdra> > 18.
20:41:45 <cleverdra> <fairy> too young...
20:41:46 <cleverdra> > for what?
20:41:48 <cleverdra> <fairy> nothing
20:41:50 <cleverdra> > Well, that's my conception too.
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21:24:41 <cleverdra> hello nate
21:27:15 <Trey> Interesting fellow, this fairy.
21:28:08 <cleverdra> Yes.  notice the exchange I pasted?
21:28:40 <cleverdra> For some reason, I was a bit reminded of those old Ultima games, when you interact with the artificial people.
21:29:44 <nate37> re
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21:44:03 <cleverdra> hello edrx.
21:44:10 <edrx> hi cleverdra
21:44:18 <edrx> I'
21:44:27 <cleverdra> I' ?
21:44:42 <edrx> I'm asking things in #hurd now
21:44:44 <cleverdra> the limit in DO LOOPs ?
21:44:47 <cleverdra> Oh, OK.
21:44:48 <edrx> :)
21:46:48 * cleverdra sicks wget on www.ultratechnology.com
21:48:59 <Trey> Goodnight, all.
21:49:08 * Trey is idle: sleeping.
21:49:46 <cleverdra> g'night, Trey
21:54:50 <cleverdra> http://grail.cba.csuohio.edu/~somos/forth.html -- nice Forth links list
22:01:04 <cleverdra> I've got to go, soon.
22:01:20 <cleverdra> Does anyone here write code words much?
22:01:35 <MrReach> I have
22:01:41 <MrReach> not so much any more
22:03:10 <cleverdra> why not any more?
22:03:39 <edrx> I used to write them directly in hex in my DOS days
22:04:00 <edrx> with the asm code in comments
22:05:51 <cleverdra> oh, cool.  Enth does that, occasionally.
22:06:17 <cleverdra> err, did it maybe.  The new version has an assembler.
22:06:54 <MrReach> cleverdra: because I seldome do low-level system coding now
22:07:22 <cleverdra> oh, OK.
22:09:26 <cleverdra> hmm... check out www.triangledigital.com
22:09:45 <MrReach> cleverdra: why did you ask about asm coding in forth?
22:10:40 <cleverdra> just curious, MrReach.  I'm going to be writing quite a bit of it.  I rather like the typical Forth's assembler, and how I can write code in assembler and make it play nice with Forth.
22:11:13 <MrReach> what platform system are you going to be coding for?
22:12:43 <cleverdra> x86 through Enth
22:13:09 * MrReach nods, "You're joining the Enth project?"
22:13:26 <cleverdra> I didn't know you could join it :-/
22:14:00 <cleverdra> I will be writing some drivers for it, so to speak.
22:14:06 <cleverdra> I've got to go now, bye.
22:14:11 <MrReach> ok, fare well
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