00:00:00 --- log: started forth/01.06.21 00:50:00 --- quit: clog (Ping timeout) 00:50:00 --- log: stopped forth/01.06.21 00:50:16 --- log: started forth/01.06.21 00:50:16 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 00:50:16 --- names: list (@clog) 00:51:27 --- join: nate37 (nate@cx83983-d.irvn1.occa.home.com) joined #forth 00:51:27 --- join: aaronl (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 00:51:27 --- join: dired (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 00:51:27 --- join: klooie (kloo@213-84-79-23.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined #forth 00:51:27 --- join: Trey (Baxter@ns.TreySoft.com) joined #forth 00:51:27 --- mode: zelazny.openprojects.net set mode: +tnlo 83 nate37 00:51:27 --- mode: zelazny.openprojects.net set mode: -o clog 01:14:57 * aaronl is away: cleaning room 02:35:14 --- join: I440r (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 02:35:34 --- part: I440r left #forth 02:36:45 --- join: I440r (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 04:11:31 * aaronl is away: I'm going to sleep!! Woohoo!! 04:30:37 --- join: eddymaue (eddymaue@modemcable154.68-202-24.hull.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 04:31:10 --- part: eddymaue left #forth 05:54:54 --- quit: dired (Ping timeout for dired[vitelus.com]) 08:05:16 --- join: aaronl_ (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 08:05:16 --- quit: aaronl (Read error to aaronl[vitelus.com]: Connection reset by peer) 08:05:16 --- quit: clog (Ping timeout) 08:05:16 --- log: stopped forth/01.06.21 08:05:24 --- log: started forth/01.06.21 08:05:24 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 08:05:24 --- names: list (clog aaronl_ I440r @nate37 klooie Trey) 08:16:17 --- join: asinus (asinus@Mix-Dijon-107-4-77.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #forth 08:16:45 xhat is spoken here ?? 08:17:10 --- part: asinus left #forth 08:34:17 a rhetorical question, presumably. 09:08:33 I don't even know what 'xhat' means. 09:15:44 * klooie neither. 10:14:47 --- join: MrReach (mrreach@209.181.43.184) joined #forth 10:15:03 hihi! 11:05:26 --- join: grurp (grurp@pc19954.batc.tec.ut.us) joined #forth 11:37:28 --- quit: grurp (Bye all) 12:03:43 --- join: futhin (thin@h24-67-113-99.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 12:03:53 hello all 12:04:05 i'm reading "starting forth" got it from the library.. woo hoo 12:34:05 heh, fun book 12:34:26 yeppers 12:34:57 --- join: adu (andrew@adsl-63-201-88-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 12:50:34 --- quit: futhin (i'm getting distracted, gotta read the damn book :)) 12:59:42 hi ppl 13:11:17 I440r! 13:23:18 hi :) 14:04:00 Grrr. No dired. 14:07:10 hehe who owns dried ? 14:07:18 dried == bot right ? 14:09:53 Correct. 14:10:23 Did anyone else get a private message from jfreeman asking them to call him? 14:10:37 --- quit: adu (IRCStep) 14:11:36 not that i noticed 14:11:54 maybe he wants to hire us :) 14:12:00 as forth coders :)))) 14:16:21 --- quit: MrReach () 14:17:02 He hasn't signed on to any channels. He just sent me a private message. 14:19:12 hmmm 14:38:27 He mistook me for someone else. 14:43:44 heyyo 14:43:46 * aaronl_ is away: I'm busy 14:43:57 * aaronl_ is back (gone 00:00:02) 14:44:01 FUCK xchat 14:58:02 :) 14:58:09 xchat is cool :) 14:58:27 turn auto away off heeh 15:01:30 --- join: cleverdra (jfondren@1Cust92.tnt4.florence.sc.da.uu.net) joined #forth 15:03:46 i wasnt autoaway 15:03:49 i did /away last night 15:03:53 then xchat reconnected 15:03:56 and lost the away state 15:04:00 What happened to dired>? 15:04:38 --- join: dired (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 15:05:09 hello dired! 15:05:28 dired, hello dired is Hello yourself, $who\! 15:05:28 OK, cleverdra. 15:05:32 hello dired! 15:05:42 his addressing is in Require mode :-( 15:05:56 yeah, "pull" technology. Not terribly useful for an IRC bot, IMO. 15:06:53 :/ 15:07:03 the #emacs people are assholes 15:07:13 i would love to set it on a per-channel basis 15:07:15 I dunno about them. Why? 15:07:25 why what? 15:07:29 Why are they assholes? 15:07:42 they think it's annoying 15:08:53 hehe 15:08:58 whenever someone said .*change it.* 15:09:00 who owns the bot ? 15:09:01 he would say 15:09:07 johnw: that doesn't look right 15:09:08 i do 15:09:15 aha :) 15:17:01 By tomorrow morning, I will have uploaded a modified version of eForth to the cLIeNUX site with the following compile-time settings: 1) print OK? 2) load argv[1] as a script? 3) load compile-time-determined file as an initfile?, and also with an INCLUDED word, and some example initscripts giving various functionality (some optimized for scripting, others optimized for interactive use -- say, red OK's). It'll also come with ports of 15:17:17 Actually, the last sentence may not be true until tomorrow night. 15:18:43 Also, I fixed a bug in default eforth settings as downloaded from cLIeNUX that breaks the syscalls 15:21:01 thread on CLF that might be interesting... "Moore's views on Forth" 15:27:06 there are, btw, archives of "real time conference" meetings on a GEnie forth roundtable at taygeta. I've been reading all of these -- they get pretty interesting. 15:30:54 where does bitchx save its notify list ? 15:34:07 --- join: eddymaue (eddymaue@modemcable154.68-202-24.hull.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 15:34:22 in french 15:34:30 is skip carter still alive ? 15:34:45 he used to come on openprojects.net ... not seen him in ages... 15:35:45 --- quit: eddymaue () 15:49:45 I suppose eddymaue was asking a question. 16:02:45 heeh 16:03:10 it was a statement, not a question heh but if i had noticed it before he left i would have responded :) 16:03:52 is skip carter still alive ?? 16:04:38 I don't remember who skip carter is. I've heard his name before. 16:05:17 runs taygetta 16:05:20 taygeta 16:05:21 erm 16:05:27 i can never remember how to sepll that :P 16:05:46 he hosts forth.org for fig too 16:06:15 used to travel all over teh country sorting out ppls security issues on their servers... 16:06:20 go work on isforth!! 16:07:27 erm... erm.... 16:10:39 Hm. 16:11:24 i will... just got some things i need to take care of rite now... 16:11:50 hehe 16:13:49 like getting another 10 thousand dollars for my downpayment on house... 16:18:02 --- nick: aaronl_ -> aaronl 16:47:52 --- join: Fare (fare@ppp65-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net) joined #forth 16:59:48 hello, Fare. 17:00:47 I've seen 'Fare' somewhere in relation to Forth, but I don't remember where exactly. Do you know where I might've seen you as Fare? 17:05:15 dunno 17:05:21 linux-eforth-1.0f ? 17:05:53 some link between retro and tunes? 17:06:27 ah, yeah! retro and eforthl. I've been mussing with eforthl's source recently. I must've seen your name there. 17:07:11 it's more of a proof-of-concept system than anything else. 17:07:40 What concept is it proving? 17:09:16 By tomorrow I'll upload a modified eforthl with some options settable at compile-time to make it nicer for unix programming. 17:09:25 upload...to the cLIeNUX site. 17:10:06 here... I said something about this here, earlier: 17:10:22 By tomorrow morning, I will have uploaded a modified version of eForth to the cLIeNUX site with the following compile-time settings: 1) print OK? 2) load argv[1] as a script? 3) load compile-time-determined file as an initfile?, and also with an INCLUDED word, and some example initscripts giving various functionality (some optimized for scripting, others optimized for interactive use -- say, red OK's). It'll also come with ports of 17:10:47 cleverdra: be sure to send me the diffs. 17:10:49 --- quit: I440r (Excess Flood) 17:10:51 --- join: I440r (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 17:11:02 Fare - sure. 17:11:37 about printing OK, why not have a runtime word "quiet" or so, that you can execute as first word. 17:11:38 ? 17:11:42 #3 is the biggie. With that I can do the others via a system init file, but I'm including #1 and #2 for convenience. 17:12:44 That's a good idea. : quiet 0 'prompt ! ;, maybe. 17:12:59 2) maybe 17:13:16 though it'd be better to execute just first argument 17:13:35 with some predefined word to execute the rest of the arguments. 17:15:10 Maybe... with #3 I can do other things like have eforth $INTERPRET all its arguments. 17:16:32 I've got to go. I'll send you a diff for #2 and #3 sometime soon, they're trivial here. Does linux-eforth as distributed have the syscalls in it, though? 17:17:43 emu: I suppose 17:17:55 emu: what's particularly wrong about CMU? 17:18:17 apart from the fact that they stopped developing CMUCL and then Gwydion. 17:18:24 wrong channel 17:18:37 Gwydion Dylan? 17:18:43 yup 17:19:01 That could've been such a nice language... 17:19:21 3 should be done AFTER executing first argument, and only if a flag isn't reset by then. 17:20:12 argument words should be in their own dictionary 17:20:27 (or are there no dictionaries in eforth? don't remember) 17:20:39 there is a limit of 8 vocabularies 17:20:56 the vocabulary could be forgotten after argument parsing 17:21:22 and the words could be named as unix options, with leading - or -- 17:22:48 with #3, do you see that arguments may not necessarily be involved? One of my ideas there was to have different eforths loading different init scripts optimized for different things...say, colored output from the compiler for better reading in one version, execution of the first argument in the other for unix scripting via #!, etc. 17:23:17 yeah, that'd be interesting =) 17:24:08 That'd be good for writing unix-like utilities. 17:24:11 cleverdra: the way I see things, eforth would either 1) dump new images or 2) work as a script interpreter 17:24:14 GNU-like. 17:24:32 eforth is really not the best system to hack 17:24:41 you might want to hack retro instead. 17:24:43 fare!!! 17:25:02 there were pre-releases of eforth 2.5 a few years ago 17:25:13 but I never saw the final version released 17:25:26 I440r! 17:25:36 Maybe. I've been playing with Enth/Flux as a standalone system, but right now I'm involved in cLIeNUX. eForth seems supportive of these simple hacks. 17:26:00 fare - why didn't you release it? 17:28:37 cleverdra: the author asked me not to 17:29:41 oh. well, darn. The latest eForth from him looks nice, with a metacompiler and such, but it only works on DOS. 17:30:05 i never liked eforth that much.... 17:30:33 i never liked c.h. ting :P 17:30:36 yeah. I've still to look at isforth. I was interrupted. 17:30:42 he was Bill Muench in october 1995. 17:30:51 the cvs is out of date 17:30:51 why not? He's written a lot of nice documentation. 17:31:03 ting ??? 17:31:04 yea 17:31:12 in japenglish 17:31:42 i never understood why zimmer had him do the fpc docs 17:33:05 eforth is ok... the sources helped me make my header macros in isforth... 17:33:27 but i still never liked eforth that much 17:34:27 i need to get tcn to send me his latest isforth sources so i can cvs put them... 17:34:40 OK. Goodbye. 17:34:42 --- quit: cleverdra (Leaving) 17:34:43 but tcn is afk 17:35:02 erm... cleverdragon isnt ting is he ? 17:35:15 did i say something wrong there ? 17:35:16 erm 18:08:30 --- quit: Fare (Connection reset by pear) 18:48:25 --- join: adu (andrew@adsl-63-201-88-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 19:19:30 --- quit: dired (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:19:30 --- quit: klooie (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:19:31 --- quit: adu (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:19:31 --- quit: aaronl (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:19:31 --- quit: I440r (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:19:32 --- quit: nate37 (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:19:32 --- quit: Trey (zelazny.openprojects.net farmer.openprojects.net) 19:44:20 --- join: nate37 (nate@cx83983-d.irvn1.occa.home.com) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- join: klooie (kloo@213-84-79-23.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- join: Trey (Baxter@ns.TreySoft.com) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- join: aaronl (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- join: dired (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- join: I440r (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- join: adu (andrew@adsl-63-201-88-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 19:44:20 --- mode: farmer.openprojects.net set mode: +o nate37 20:11:15 bye 20:11:16 --- quit: adu (Read error to adu[adsl-63-201-88-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net]: EOF from client) 22:00:28 --- join: adu (andrew@adsl-63-201-88-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 23:35:28 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.60) joined #forth 23:35:58 --- quit: edrx ([x]chat) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/01.06.21