00:00:00 --- log: started forth/01.04.14 01:39:26 --- join: Horse_AWAY (fanman@24.70.208.169) joined #forth 01:39:44 --- nick: Horse_AWAY -> Horse 01:43:22 Anyone heard of any forth robot wars? I have tried c robots and pascal robots... 01:44:26 this was a help to get used to C as pascal was what I learned in school. 01:45:27 ears not on? maybe later, Bye4Now! 01:49:04 --- part: Horse left #forth 04:43:45 --- join: gREMLiNs (kittie@195.252.66.45) joined #forth 04:53:49 --- quit: gREMLiNs (I am one who is many) 11:45:15 --- quit: I440r (Reality Strikes Again!) 14:32:21 --- join: XeF4 (xef4@xef4.babeltech.dk) joined #forth 14:51:39 --- join: I440r (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 14:51:43 hi ppl 14:51:51 hi 14:51:57 xe!!! 14:51:59 hi man :) 14:52:37 hello again. 14:53:25 happy easter :) 14:53:58 happy easter! 7min to go here. 14:58:02 has anyone seen tcn lately ? 14:58:23 I have not seen him for several months, but I stopped coming to #lisp and #tunes 14:58:40 I actually came here looking for him. 14:58:59 tcn@tunes.org ??? :) 14:59:17 probably 15:00:52 im rarely here these days, im away from home mostly on a contract 17:36:56 --- join: Horse (fanman@24.70.208.169) joined #forth 17:37:24 --- part: Horse left #forth 17:49:09 --- join: ree (jwm@twisted.goodnet.com) joined #forth 17:51:16 ree! 17:51:55 hey hey =) 17:52:12 how are you bud? 17:53:10 not too shabby :) 17:53:15 u ? 17:53:35 heh, going good, working out again finally =) 17:57:43 --- quit: ree (Leaving) 19:59:36 --- join: nslu (nslu@ool-18bf5ccf.dyn.optonline.net) joined #forth 20:00:13 --- part: nslu left #forth 23:23:42 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.101) joined #forth 23:45:45 --- join: adu (andrew@adsl-63-201-88-48.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 23:45:57 edrx! 23:46:26 hi! 23:46:33 what's going on? 23:46:41 not much 23:46:51 i've been working at WorldForge 23:46:59 what is that? 23:47:04 started porting XClient and GtkRadiant 23:47:16 now i'm helping SDL and XonX 23:47:23 that's not so little... 23:47:28 www.worldforge.org 23:47:39 XonX is a port of X11 to MacOSX 23:47:58 www.qer.com i think for Radiant 23:48:16 i got XClient to compile and use SDL, but not much happened 23:48:24 in what state it is now? Working enough to be advertised, but buggy and lacking features? 23:48:25 so i'm porting SDL to Quartz 23:48:36 XClient? 23:48:38 or SDL? 23:48:53 xonx 23:49:01 GtkRadiant i got to open the prefs, still won't use OpenGL 23:49:55 XonX works all the way fullscreen (by switching with key-combo) and several rootless patches are available, but they've got a different approach for the final rootless implementation 23:50:33 the only src they have are patches to XFree src 23:50:45 no cvs yet 23:51:02 are you hacking it? X seemed so ugly inside the last time I tried to tinked with it... 23:51:22 i'm currently browsing the src 23:52:06 i know, X is very ugly to code with/for 23:52:22 guess what tho? 23:52:33 i did some tests on AppKit.framework 23:52:53 hi ppl 23:52:54 hrm 23:52:57 no ops heheh 23:53:11 hi I440r, long time no see you... 23:53:16 --- mode: ChanServ set mode: +o I440r 23:53:19 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o adu 23:53:21 and there are several kinda of functions implemented in the library, objc mesage functions, private functs, and public functs(allowed to be linked from other apps) 23:53:22 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o clog 23:53:25 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o edrx 23:53:27 I440r!!!!! 23:53:33 =) 23:53:34 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o lar1 23:53:38 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o nate37 23:53:39 nice to see you again 23:53:42 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o XeF4 23:53:44 :) 23:53:50 hows isforth? 23:53:54 been reinstalling debian on my laptop 23:54:04 was a bitch to get the synaptics touchpad to work :) 23:54:25 edrx: anyway i found that only 3.82% of public functs in the AppKit lib are declared in the Headers 23:55:35 what's the appkit lib, exactly? 23:55:38 my isforth PPC port hasn't been going well 23:55:57 part of NeXTStep/OpenStep/Cocoa 23:56:12 adu: hm, ok. 23:56:21 its basically the GUI library of OpenStep 23:56:30 GNUstep calls it gstep-gui 23:56:46 the other half of Cocoa is Foundation 23:56:53 GNUstep calls it gstep-base 23:57:19 OpenStep standard called it ApplicationKit and FoundationKit 23:58:36 I remember trying to put gnustep to work, just out of curiosity, and not being able to make it do anything interesting... 23:58:41 whats in a name? alot.... i say 23:59:08 NS programming is tought to learn 23:59:19 but easy to do lots of things with apparently 23:59:40 i haven't been able to do much with it, but i'll learn soon 23:59:59 Would OpenStep still smell as weel by any other name? 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/01.04.14