00:00:00 --- log: started forth/00.12.25 00:14:57 --- quit: aaronl_ (vacation) 00:51:59 --- join: adu (newbie@1Cust242.tnt1.vacaville.ca.da.uu.net) joined #forth 00:52:12 yo 00:53:11 hi all 00:53:14 l440r: wuzup? 00:57:39 --- join: aaronl (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 01:02:25 hi there 01:08:21 aaron, wuzup? 01:08:45 hm 01:08:53 i have a plane trip in 6 hours 01:08:59 and i'm bored 01:09:06 today i wrote a really cool parser 01:09:10 but i have no idea if it works 01:09:30 since the format is too complicated for me to make any valid data in! :-{} 01:26:55 i have a plane trip in 8 hours 01:27:07 and i'm bored, too 01:27:29 hmm 01:27:34 what does it parse? 01:31:52 my own binary file format 01:31:56 for sumarizing mailboxes 01:34:45 binary! cool 01:35:28 :) 01:35:52 mailboxes? as in multiple user's mailboxes? as in all the info? or just like size? 01:36:02 all the headers and stuff 01:36:16 so you can view the contents of a mailbox without needing to parse the whole damn thing 01:36:21 i always thought that reading binary was hard because the machine always only reads things in bytes..... 01:36:30 reading binary is hard 01:36:33 i had fun though 01:36:48 do you haveto mask out things your not using? 01:36:58 how is that done? 01:37:00 huh? 01:37:12 mask out things? 01:37:24 like (byte<<4) >> 3 01:37:26 ? 01:37:39 no 01:37:40 make it so you only see some of the bits 01:37:55 i just had to do endian conversions 01:38:01 i store the file in big endia 01:38:02 ouch 01:38:06 thats worse 01:38:07 :) 01:38:19 big endian is better 01:38:25 yeah 01:38:41 pretty seamless in C though 01:38:50 I just call htonl() and ntohl() 01:38:52 i wish forth was incorperated more into OSs 01:38:58 unforutnately, it's not so simple :/ 01:39:02 hehe awsome 01:39:11 due to the retarded design of C, "long" could mean anything 01:39:20 not so simple incorperating? or converting? 01:39:22 so i had to write my own functions that operated on exactly 32-bits 01:39:35 no simple _reliable_ conversions without writing your own 01:39:44 ya i have C's integer problems 01:39:50 s/have/hate/ 01:40:14 o 01:40:24 i thought you wrote it in forth 01:40:49 I wish :/ 01:41:06 forth would actually have been a good implementation language 01:41:32 are you able to write parsers in forth? 01:41:51 i wish i could write an OS based on Open firmware... 01:42:04 like actually IN of... 01:42:06 I don't know much forth 01:42:10 I want to learn though 01:42:16 i just noe 01:42:24 s/now/know/ 01:42:29 its syntax 01:42:32 and a few words 01:42:56 * adu is starting kindergarden tommorow, he only knows 3 words.... 01:42:57 hehehe 01:43:32 me too 01:43:42 i can do basic stack stuff 01:43:53 never done anything useful though 01:44:13 i've only used it in OF like 'dev / ls' 01:44:25 and 'see boot-file' 01:44:39 i want to learn how to disassemble tho 01:44:56 i just memorized OF commands :) 01:47:00 from what? 01:47:05 OF pdf? 01:47:18 or do you have a OF machine? 01:47:32 i hear compaq, and ibm have OF machines too 01:47:41 or is that only alpha? 01:47:57 i used to use macs 01:48:53 cool 01:55:54 have you heard of vapour? 01:58:35 yes 01:58:46 how did you hear about it? 02:02:17 in #python i think 02:02:41 they said that it was the most promosing OS project 02:03:33 wow 02:03:40 i wouldn't expect pythoners to think much of it 02:03:46 it's very underground right now 02:03:50 i know the author 02:06:17 cool 02:06:27 i saw the site and even i think its cool 02:06:43 i usually think most OSs are just rehashes of the same old stuff 02:07:58 vapour is pretty close to origional 02:08:01 original 02:10:13 ya 02:10:19 its pretty revolutionary 02:10:39 I am going to sleep. Maybe I'll get 4 hours... 02:10:43 i basically burst out laughing when i saw the 3 "no"s on the site 02:10:56 no kernel, processes, or filesystem 02:11:16 those are the things that make up an OS, so technically its not an OS 02:11:26 but thats what makes it cool i think 02:11:32 o ok 02:11:36 don't let me stop you 02:11:52 --- quit: aaronl (vacation) 02:13:32 --- part: adu left #forth 03:10:53 --- join: ree (jwm@twisted.goodnet.com) joined #forth 04:21:49 --- quit: ree (bbl) 04:35:40 --- join: Fare (fare@ppp11-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net) joined #forth 04:52:52 --- quit: Fare (happy happy joy joy) 08:46:33 --- join: Fare (fare@ppp11-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net) joined #forth 09:14:06 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o Fare 09:14:15 Gakuk! 09:14:25 :) 09:14:30 bbl :) 09:16:09 merry Isaacnewtonsday! 10:54:58 --- join: ree (jwm@twisted.goodnet.com) joined #forth 10:55:26 hey all 11:16:43 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o ree 11:16:45 bbl... 11:16:55 got stuph to do, im not here :) 11:16:58 ttyl =) 11:17:00 :) 11:17:02 hah 11:17:07 on christmas? 11:17:12 heeh yea 12:06:18 --- join: Fare_ (fare@ppp11-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net) joined #forth 12:06:23 hey fare 12:06:45 --- quit: Fare (Ping timeout for Fare[ppp11-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net]) 12:09:54 --- nick: Fare_ -> Fare 12:17:04 --- quit: ree (bbiab) 12:20:24 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o Fare 12:34:21 --- nick: Fare -> Fare61453 12:57:14 --- nick: Fare61453 -> Fare 13:00:36 --- nick: Fare -> FareAway 13:22:14 --- nick: FareAway -> Fare 14:15:40 --- join: ree (jwm@twisted.goodnet.com) joined #forth 14:15:45 there we go 16:16:17 --- quit: ree (bbiab) 16:22:54 --- quit: Fare (Merry LISPmas and Lispy new millenium!) 18:06:42 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@ppp-206.u1-h2.dca.fcc.net) joined #forth 18:06:42 --- mode: ChanServ set mode: +o TheBlueWizard 18:06:48 hiya all 18:12:27 --- quit: I440r (Ping timeout for I440r[purplecoder.com]) 19:20:43 --- join: ult (ult@1Cust188.tnt4.nashville.tn.da.uu.net) joined #forth 19:26:13 --- quit: ult (Ping timeout for ult[1Cust188.tnt4.nashville.tn.da.uu.net]) 20:34:34 --- join: ult (ult@1Cust2.tnt2.nashville.tn.da.uu.net) joined #forth 20:36:20 hiya ult 20:42:59 gotta go...bye 20:43:04 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 23:49:55 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.66) joined #forth 23:50:56 --- quit: edrx ([x]chat) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/00.12.25