00:00:00 --- log: started forth/00.12.09 00:04:38 --- quit: I440r (barnes.openprojects.net king.openprojects.net) 00:04:38 --- quit: MrReach (barnes.openprojects.net king.openprojects.net) 00:04:38 --- quit: aaronl (barnes.openprojects.net king.openprojects.net) 00:04:38 --- quit: ult (barnes.openprojects.net king.openprojects.net) 00:04:38 --- quit: WB7ODYfre (barnes.openprojects.net king.openprojects.net) 00:04:56 --- join: I440r (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 00:04:56 --- join: aaronl (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 00:04:56 --- join: ult (ultima@149.149.201.30) joined #forth 00:04:56 --- join: WB7ODYfre (user9377@global250.el.nec.com) joined #forth 00:04:56 --- join: MrReach (mrreach@209.181.43.190) joined #forth 00:09:09 * aaronl is away: sick 00:12:01 sorry to hear 00:17:36 Here is the Forth to 68K assemble language link M16pc.zip - MS-dos FORTH code to native 68k machine language. No docs other than the source code. It is available via ftp from 00:17:53 oh! cool! 00:17:55 that nyquist.ee.uablberta.ca website 00:18:07 runs on MS-DOS 00:18:16 erf! 00:18:28 but forth is easy to port, it says in fine print 00:19:06 I've been there before 00:19:12 Well you did say DOSEMU to the rescue. Yes the very,very fine print. Do not past Go Do not collect $200. Go directly to cell 00:19:27 hahaha! 00:19:44 I can't get the site open, DNS isn't finding it for some reason 00:19:50 padded cell for a couple weeks or months till the urge to port has subsided 00:20:29 I can find it with the FTP, but I can't log in to download the vubug.arc file that I want from that website. 00:20:45 vubug , what a name 00:20:48 Isn't that a shame you can see it but not touch it enough to download it. 00:20:52 like virus.exe 00:21:08 Vanderbilt University bug. Sort of like the TutorBug 00:21:16 I see your joke though. 00:29:35 --- quit: WB7ODYfre (Leaving) 00:43:03 --- quit: MrReach () 03:57:18 --- join: Fare (fare@ppp28-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net) joined #forth 04:36:59 --- join: tg (davec@5116davec.006.popsite.net) joined #forth 04:45:47 --- quit: tg (Read error to tg[5116davec.006.popsite.net]: Connection reset by peer) 04:46:52 --- join: tg (davec@5116davec.006.popsite.net) joined #forth 04:53:22 --- quit: tg (Ping timeout for tg[5116davec.006.popsite.net]) 08:48:13 --- quit: ult (ircII EPIC4pre2 -- Accept no limitations) 09:24:52 --- join: ult (ultima@149.149.201.30) joined #forth 09:32:16 --- join: mark4_ (mark4@purplecoder.com) joined #forth 09:32:20 --- quit: I440r (Read error to I440r[purplecoder.com]: EOF from client) 10:19:42 --- join: tgunr (davec@5116davec.006.popsite.net) joined #forth 10:29:34 --- quit: tgunr (Ping timeout for tgunr[5116davec.006.popsite.net]) 10:29:48 --- join: tgunr (davec@5116davec.006.popsite.net) joined #forth 11:13:52 --- quit: ult (ircII EPIC4pre2 -- Accept no limitations) 12:01:41 --- join: SoundChsr (sndwrite@sdn-ar-001iacrapP309.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 12:08:19 --- quit: SoundChsr ([x]chat) 13:47:57 * aaronl is back (gone 13:39:13) 13:54:01 * aaronl is away: I'm busy 14:54:33 --- join: edrx (edrx@200.240.18.55) joined #forth 15:13:46 --- quit: edrx (Ping timeout for edrx[200.240.18.55]) 15:15:33 --- join: iLLf8d (neener@adsl-63-205-56-5.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) joined #forth 15:15:43 hey all whats 4th? 15:16:01 I see the 83 person limit must be popular 15:28:50 --- nick: iLLf8d -> Si\iKL 15:33:03 hmm interesting 15:33:08 I found a good link on it 15:38:37 hi 15:38:55 he ist not a limit on how many ppl come in here hehe 15:39:01 --- nick: Si\iKL -> iLLf8d 15:39:10 im limiting the channel to 83 standard forth (not realy tho :) hehe 15:39:13 hmm 15:39:13 its a forth joke :P 15:39:18 ah 15:39:25 I gotcha 15:39:34 I found a few good linux at dmoz.org 15:40:00 a few good linux what ? 15:40:16 lol 15:40:19 links =P 15:40:26 s/links/linux 15:40:32 guess I type that a bit too often 15:40:33 LOL 15:45:42 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@216.25.205.205) joined #forth 15:45:42 --- mode: ChanServ set mode: +o TheBlueWizard 15:45:49 hiya all 15:45:54 greetings 15:47:29 hiya iLLf8d 15:50:04 tbw!!! 15:50:54 who is tgunr ? 15:51:32 if he is in here... he is cool :) 15:51:33 hehe 15:51:39 only cool ppl come in here :) 15:52:33 tbw op everyone eh ??? 15:52:44 im too lazee to log in :P 15:52:58 hiya mark4_! 15:53:13 ok I'll op... 15:53:16 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: +o mark4_ 15:53:20 heh head stuck in another window like me =P 15:53:22 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: +o iLLf8d 15:53:27 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: +o Fare 15:53:28 :) 15:53:31 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: +o aaronl 15:53:44 op tgunr? 15:53:47 us supreme court orders re ounts to STOP!!!!!!!!! yea!!!!! 15:53:50 yea 15:53:50 hehe 15:54:07 if he goes postal on us and takes over then thats fine too hehehe 15:54:11 ;P~ 15:54:12 stop? whoa...all this start and stop gonna drive me batty :) 15:54:23 --- join: ult (ultima@149.149.201.30) joined #forth 15:54:31 heh 15:54:46 hiya ult 15:55:11 --- mode: mark4_ set mode: +o tgunr 15:55:20 --- mode: mark4_ set mode: +o ult 15:55:25 hi 15:55:26 shud add ult too hehe 15:55:26 hmm 15:55:31 hang on ill log in 15:55:52 --- nick: mark4_ -> I440r 15:56:42 heh 15:56:54 hrm ult you were already added here 15:56:56 u dont log in do you :P 15:57:00 no I don't 15:57:00 lazee :P 15:57:11 you know it 15:57:14 heh 15:57:22 i'm the same way 15:57:23 heh 15:57:29 heheh 15:57:44 brb... coffeefeffeeefff 15:57:48 * iLLf8d is always too lazy to do that crap I always count on others in channels to op me 15:57:49 herm not ennuf e's or f's 15:58:53 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: +pi 15:59:19 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: -pi 15:59:22 oops 15:59:42 I executed the wrong command hehe 16:00:16 eheh hrm 16:00:19 i hurt all over 16:00:20 doh! 16:00:28 lol 16:00:33 like I would :) 16:02:05 i just when thru what my wing chun teacher (sifu) calls "extreme selection": 16:02:23 he is an ex special forces guy, this wasnt wing chun stuff, it was worse hehe 16:02:40 he blindfolds 5 of us, ties our hands behind our back, drives us about 15 miles 16:02:46 --- mode: TheBlueWizard set mode: -o TheBlueWizard 16:02:50 :) 16:02:54 and dumps us and some stuff in a field 16:03:06 tells us, dont leave anything behind, be back by dawn 16:03:21 we untie ourselves and take off eh blindfiold 16:03:38 we find 1 rook sack each, a gallon of water each, some weights and a LOG 16:03:53 we made it back by about 6 am 16:03:56 he 16:04:06 the temp got down to 10 deg F last nite 16:04:10 not sure what that is in c 16:04:15 but we made it back 16:04:36 sounds like fun 16:04:41 --- join: water (water@c207-202-221-160.sea1.cablespeed.com) joined #forth 16:04:49 hey 16:05:18 --- part: water left #forth 16:05:32 who was water ?? hehe 16:05:33 c = 5/9 * (f - 32)...that's the formula 16:05:48 beats me 16:06:03 * TheBlueWizard calmly drinks up water (bad joke I know) 16:06:03 a moron 16:06:09 who thinks he is brilliant 16:06:15 u know him ? 16:06:18 yes 16:06:26 hehe why he just do a fly by ? 16:06:35 --- mode: I440r set mode: +o TheBlueWizard 16:06:51 oh i know him 16:06:54 from #tunes 16:07:02 i remember him now 16:07:09 that channel is kuinda silly 16:07:31 #tunes channel <-- silly, eh? 16:11:11 yea 16:11:11 hehe 16:11:45 hmm.... 16:14:44 o 16:14:46 hmm 16:20:22 I440r: a good question you're asking in #debian :) 16:20:39 :) 16:20:46 iLLf8d: gave me the idea :) 16:21:31 FreeBSD gave me the idea =P I was describing freebsd to I440r heh 16:21:52 ive been thunking of installing freebsd on my second machine here 16:21:55 just to try it out 16:22:00 it's not my idea though it's I440r's I was just telling him about cvsup and world builds 16:22:03 i believe its supposed to be more secure too 16:22:19 if i install it and get used to it i mite install it on my server too 16:22:21 mayber 16:22:26 FreeBSD has the mechanism for the equiv of apt-getting the source and compiling it, eh? 16:22:40 yes 16:22:46 FreeBSD has done it for years 16:23:00 FreeBSD's system is still years ahead of apt 16:23:15 I dunno about years 16:23:20 hmm! Debian's version seem remarkably DIYish re: source codes.... 16:23:22 ult i know 16:23:23 I use debian and freebsd 16:23:25 I like parts of both 16:23:46 its all moot anyway, microsoft has a patent on package managment now 16:23:47 grrr 16:23:58 huh? 16:24:08 on package management? 16:24:10 that not only covers rpm and .deb, it also covers ARC/ZIP etc 16:24:10 hows that 16:24:22 they got it a few months ago 16:24:29 how could they do that 16:24:35 thats bullshit 16:24:37 sure is 16:24:45 but they got the patent 16:24:48 whats the jist of the patent 16:25:03 fsmunoz said Debian is working on that 16:25:13 i think they meant it to be package managment and automated download and install of things under WINDOWS 16:25:18 with reference to the regsetry 16:25:19 but 16:25:29 the patent also covers rpm/deb and zip/arc etc 16:25:30 brb 16:25:30 fone 16:25:36 no way 16:25:36 hmm 16:26:44 I doubt it could hold up 16:26:44 I440r: M$ has patent on *server-side* package mgmt....Debian is safe, at least for the moment 16:26:44 thats like patenting water 16:26:44 =P 16:26:44 how could one company patent something like that 16:26:44 I find it hard to believe 16:26:45 thats like a patent on all future technologies 16:26:53 * aaronl is back (gone 02:32:53) 16:26:56 * iLLf8d patents cool shit 16:27:00 I don't think it'd work 16:27:49 I'm sure I could describe "cool shit" with a halfway decent description too 16:27:58 * TheBlueWizard patents hot shit 16:28:06 heh 16:28:15 iLLf8d: together we can sell shit, hot and cold hehe 16:29:17 * iLLf8d looks into the water patent 16:29:17 I could clean up 16:29:17 =P 16:29:17 * iLLf8d kills himself with puns 16:29:17 * iLLf8d self destructs cause he's so lame 16:29:52 hmm 16:29:58 server side package manegment 16:30:07 * TheBlueWizard crumbles cuz he's dainbread 16:30:09 thats sucks that could apply to a ton of shit 16:30:45 yeah...it sux....but.......I still remember that /. discussion on M$ patent 16:31:18 hmm 16:31:52 you can search then read all those commentaries...some of them are insightful.... 16:37:41 yeah I dunno I don't like to read commentaries from people who have opinions on things they know nothing about 16:38:01 i'd rather hear the commentaries from the laywers who discuss the patent situation 16:38:18 yeah....but sometimes I learned things I wouldn't have known :) 16:39:10 true....but you will have to wait for the lawyers to step up to the plates, if ever, and then wait to hear what the court says....way too long 16:41:33 yeah 16:41:40 I know what you're saying 16:41:58 you can always learn but alot of times things are hearsay and just plain wrong 16:42:21 kinda like when online and asking people in channel about anything (packages dists whatever) 16:42:34 eveyone has an opinion on things they've never even installed and tried 16:42:37 heh 16:42:37 that's a risk.....then again your brain get massaged hehe 16:42:54 * iLLf8d is lawyer speak ignorant 16:43:15 the OJ trial and this court deal with presidential votes is proving that 16:43:27 * TheBlueWizard is a lawyer wannabe but loathe the baggage it carries... :) 16:45:29 heh 16:47:05 actually I'm just joking....never want to be a lawyer.....the life of a lawyer can be so crappy....only good thing about it is the salary it can command 16:47:28 theres a guy at siemens tahts a lawyer, he cant stand the inherant dishonestly of the trade 16:47:32 and became an engineer instead 16:47:36 erm 16:47:37 btw 16:47:38 im back :P 16:47:48 rello I440r :) 16:47:52 :) 16:47:53 heh 16:48:10 uptime is FIFTYONE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:48:11 hehe 16:48:14 adn 20 hours 16:48:18 heh 16:48:22 for what? 16:48:22 man this just keeps getting better and better hehe 16:48:23 my server 16:48:25 purplecoder.com 16:48:40 oh...hehe....running Debian Linux? 16:48:42 my other machine has a whopping 4 days uptime hehe 16:48:43 yes 16:48:47 potato 16:49:06 shell accounts, email server, web server, ftp server, irc server 16:49:11 all on the same machine heh 16:49:17 kewl 16:49:33 plus a mirror of debian that i know at least TWO ppl use to do their updates with 16:49:36 heh 16:49:36 of course you need to harden your box against crackers 16:49:52 my firewall rite now says "allow all packets TO or FROM anywhere" 16:50:00 doh! 16:51:12 * iLLf8d may get himself a domain name 16:51:13 =) 16:51:30 nice policy 16:51:31 =) 16:51:32 heh 16:51:38 all?! not a good practice.....I know....my job nowadays involve security and I can tell you that you better harden your box now.... 16:51:52 i know 16:51:56 ah just backup your box 16:52:05 a policy I gotta start doing 16:52:10 ive got a 300+ line firewall script (ipchains) that doesnt work 16:52:16 lol 16:52:17 heh 16:52:23 I've got one thats not bad 16:52:27 at least I think it is 16:52:28 it basically changes the rules to DISallow all packets to/from anywhere hehe 16:52:31 I never got hacked 16:52:43 althgouh I don't know that anyones ever tried either 16:52:57 i got rooted by one of my users once 16:53:01 lol 16:53:08 i lsot my asm source library 16:53:15 10 years of code down the drain 16:53:17 complete disallows is practically the same as pulling the network cable off its jack 16:53:21 no wayyyyyyyy 16:53:22 shit 16:53:22 untill i rememberd my dad also had a coppy 16:53:30 so they were being malisious 16:53:35 not just screwing around? 16:53:38 thats sucks 16:53:52 malicious that is 16:53:52 oh yes crackers can be damn malicious 16:54:02 he not only gained root but recompiled a few packages + kernel etc so that the only way i could get rid of him was to dio a complete reinstall 16:54:11 believe me....I've seen the attacks at work 16:54:14 but what i didnt know was that he had also fscked with my partition tables 16:54:20 i was fine until i did a reinstall 16:54:21 but it was one of his users 16:54:33 you are a bit loose with the shells 16:54:36 i lost ALL partitions on that drive 16:54:43 yes i know 16:54:53 he had an account here, it wasnt a remote rooting 16:55:01 we've been talking a bit although I think you can tell I wasn't gonna fuck with your stuff 16:55:03 i brb 16:55:31 theres nothing on that machine now that i cant afford to lose hehe 16:55:51 but i realy do need to increase security somewhat 16:56:01 yeah 16:56:10 I get nervous about that sometimes 16:56:23 theres only a half dozen people or so that i'd give shells too 16:56:27 yeah....and you get the experience in hardening the box as a bonus 16:57:06 I440r your ip static? 16:57:19 yes 16:57:21 cool 16:57:28 kewl 16:57:29 * iLLf8d needs to think up a domain name 16:57:39 should I go for cool or functional 16:57:47 i'd like to sell something eventually 16:57:59 although maybe I should just go for personal at the moment 16:58:40 i originally wanted coder.com but it was taken grr 16:59:29 heh 16:59:30 lol 16:59:32 yeah 16:59:42 thats like trying to get www.search.com 16:59:49 purple is a cool colour tho so i made it purplecoder :) 17:00:21 shoulg I go for cool/commercial or cool/personal 17:00:22 ? 17:00:30 hrm 17:00:34 both 17:01:38 hmm 17:04:29 vacantminds.com isn't available =P 17:04:41 hehe 17:04:47 www.blanklook.com ????? 17:04:49 lol 17:04:59 www.dumbass.net ??? 17:05:00 hehe 17:05:06 I threw in saladshooter just outta curiousity 17:05:06 it's taken 17:05:13 not that i'd want it 17:05:45 dumbass.com is taken 17:05:46 they are all taken! the good ones anyway 17:05:49 no 17:05:51 * aaronl is away: I'm busy 17:05:58 I put in a few that are good 17:06:00 * aaronl is back (gone 00:00:02) 17:06:06 some aren't taken 17:06:14 took me three days to come up with mine 17:06:22 whats yours? tgunr.com? 17:06:24 heh jk 17:06:31 plainsimple.com 17:06:36 lol 17:06:58 damn paperorplastic.com is taken 17:07:02 hmm 17:07:27 hey, is tgunr.com taken? 17:07:43 i'm lazy... 8) 17:07:58 vacuousmind.com is available. 17:07:58 17:08:01 heh 17:08:12 tgunr: yo! do i know u under a different nick ? 17:08:18 who r u :) 17:08:20 is dumbblonde.com taken? 17:08:36 maybe, been using Forth since '77 17:08:57 it's taken 17:08:59 it had to be 17:09:13 thats almost one of those click this button ones and it keeps moving around 17:09:14 =P 17:09:23 how about stupidlook.com 17:09:33 lol 17:09:57 Congratulations! ultimateignorance.com is available. 17:10:01 heh 17:10:05 lol 17:10:08 hmm 17:10:15 www.duh.com ??? 17:10:22 oh thats gotta be taken 17:10:27 I tried brb.com and ggp.com 17:10:28 taken 17:10:35 it is 17:10:40 www.doh.com ? 17:10:56 hrm.com is taken 17:10:59 duh is 17:11:03 doh's gotta be 17:11:06 www.blah.com ? 17:11:11 www.bleh.com ? 17:11:39 www.forthferu.com 17:11:42 the plaidpenguin isnt available 17:11:57 www.wtf.com ? 17:11:59 hehe 17:12:02 http://www.networksolutions.com/ 17:12:04 sheesh 17:12:07 I can't type that fast 17:12:19 www.rtfm.com ? 17:12:20 hehe 17:12:24 that would be cool :) 17:12:49 dont register stuff at netsol 17:12:52 use joker.com 17:12:57 ~$10/year 17:13:00 netsol are assholes 17:13:01 for .com/.org/.net 17:13:05 i know 17:13:07 i used them 17:13:08 :) 17:13:08 grr 17:14:29 I was just using that for the lookup 17:14:37 hmm 17:15:58 flacidpenguin.com is available 17:15:58 heh 17:16:14 lol 17:16:14 although it'd imply that linux blows so... 17:16:38 www.pingupower.com :) 17:17:02 if you have an interest in developing an alternative OS, you could try www.forthos.com.... 17:17:07 penguinthumper.com is available 17:17:42 hrm 17:17:58 I don't have time for a web page and you've got me writing os' 17:17:58 heh 17:18:23 * iLLf8d has time for helloworld beta testing and thats about it 17:19:12 digitalerection.com is available 17:19:12 heh 17:19:20 * TheBlueWizard chuckles 17:19:29 ok now to get serious 17:20:24 hmm I like procrastinationwizard 17:20:30 although it's a bit long 17:20:37 * TheBlueWizard chuckles 17:20:44 how about lazywizard? 17:21:26 hmm 17:21:38 guruwannabe is available 17:23:03 forthguru? <-- killer! :) 17:23:42 futilitycentral is available 17:25:28 www.forthcoder.com :) 17:25:31 that would be cool :) 17:25:38 heh 17:25:50 first is better though 17:25:58 no medals for forth =P 17:26:01 jk 17:26:23 mothership is taken 17:26:24 how about harddot.com 17:26:38 it's taken 17:26:48 gotta be a pr0n site 17:28:08 its $24 at joker.com 17:28:16 hmm I found one WOOHOO 17:28:23 i'd tellya but then i'd have to killya 17:28:35 lol 17:28:58 woody.com 17:28:58 jk 17:28:59 =P 17:29:27 your dot helped 17:29:32 * TheBlueWizard afints from the shock of seeing this name 17:30:08 hmm I dunno 17:30:15 the dot turns it into dot. 17:30:18 or dot dot 17:30:25 * iLLf8d doesn't think he likes it anymore 17:31:44 www.onthe.com <-- a rather subtle joke...say it out loud 17:34:55 hmm 17:35:34 a bit Zen like in its humor, I know... 17:35:39 heh 17:35:54 it's nice but it'd be a bitch to get people to write it down properly 17:36:06 * TheBlueWizard laughs 17:36:30 yeah...people are so conditioned to expect something after the word "the".... 17:36:51 shit I can't think of anything thats suitable and short 17:36:53 * TheBlueWizard likes to mess with people's minds hehe 17:38:51 ywea www.longassnetworknamessuckbigtime.com 17:38:59 I still like digitalerection.com (wish I had a pr0n site) 17:39:09 hehe 17:39:38 * TheBlueWizard laughs 18:17:24 got to go...later all! 18:17:33 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 18:19:25 heh 18:55:00 --- join: edrx (edrx@copacabana-ttyS19.inx.com.br) joined #forth 19:21:48 --- nick: aaronl -> { 19:22:51 --- quit: { (Killed (NickServ (This nick is reserved by another user))) 19:23:00 --- join: aaronl_ (aaronl@vitelus.com) joined #forth 19:32:04 --- nick: aaronl_ -> aaronl 19:37:41 --- nick: aaronl -> q 19:43:30 --- nick: q -> aaronl 20:35:46 --- quit: iLLf8d (I'm too lame to make a quit message) 20:55:39 --- join: MrReach (mrreach@209.181.43.190) joined #forth 20:55:52 busy in here tonight @:^> 20:59:16 --- quit: MrReach (Ping timeout for MrReach[209.181.43.190]) 20:59:56 --- join: MrReach (mrreach@209.181.43.190) joined #forth 21:24:27 --- nick: aaronl -> aaronl_ 21:42:49 --- quit: MrReach (Read error to MrReach[209.181.43.190]: Connection reset by peer) 21:44:53 --- part: edrx left #forth 22:23:11 --- nick: aaronl_ -> aaronl 22:55:46 --- join: MrReach (mrreach@209.181.43.190) joined #forth 23:03:45 --- quit: MrReach () 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/00.12.09