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From: Matthew Thomas <mpt26@spamfree.land>
Subject: Re: to Colin--
Date: 1998/11/12
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Colin Douthwaite wrote:
> 
> Martin Atkins <zneg.ngxvaf@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
> >...
> 
> Well if you are so damned experienced in alt.ascii-art over 5 years
> then you should know well that will happen if you feed Casso...so now
> having fed him...you blame Casso for doing something he cannot, in
> turn, resist doing?   Bah!  Humbug!

Why not? You blame Casso all the time ... and you `feed' him more than
anybody else in the group does.

>...
> > I think what you are basically getting at is that you want to have
> > this newsgroup entirely to yourself, where you can post things to
> > your heart's content without annoying anyone.
> 
> Bzzzt!  If that's what you think...then you would be dead wrong.
> 
> Nothing could be more dull or boring than a newsgroup with one
> person as the only poster!

Oh ... dear.

You really didn't get it, Colin, did you?

It was SARCASM, Colin. 
 _____  ___  ______  _____   ___   ________  ____ _ _ 
/  ___|/ _ \ | ___ \/  __ \ / _ \ /  ___|  \/  | | | |
\ `--./ /_\ \| |_/ /| /  \// /_\ \\ `--.| .  . | | | |
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/\__/ / | | || |\ \ | \__/\| | | |/\__/ / |  | |_|_|_|
\____/\_| |_/\_| \_| \____/\_| |_/\____/\_|  |_(_|_|_)
                                                      
In other words, `a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on
bitter, caustic, and often ironic language' [Webster].

You bitch at other people in the group so often (and yes, I can see it
coming now, you'll bitch at me about this posting too, but I don't care)
that <SARCASM>one could be forgiven for thinking that you wanted no-one
else besides yourself in the group at all</SARCASM>.

Martin's comment was quite funny ...

>...
> I think what you might be saying is that you choose not to remember
> Veronica Karlsson's postings.  If that is the case then it is
> your privilege so to choose.
>...

... whereas yours, on the other hand, was just silly.

>...
> Also consider...experience of Usenet or length of time acquiring that
> experience is no guarantee that you have become less clueless or
> conduct you Net activities more sensibly...irrespective of time.

Well, it's good that you at least realize this, Colin.

I hope, therefore, that despite your 150 years in this group, despite
your supreme wisdom, despite your authorship of most of the RFCs
relating to Usenet, despite the fact that you probably don't realize
that I'm being sarcastic again yet, despite your omnipotence, despite
your outright godliness, you take it upon yourself to `conduct you [sic]
Net activities more sensibly', and not to bash Martin so much.

For Martin, IMHO, has done more to help new members of this group, with
his advice, utilities, and mini-FAQs, than you and I have together.

>...
> > You are correct, I am only 15. However I do not recollect any such
> > postings from Veronica, and I am not immature. In fact, I think
> > that this petty reply to a short light hearted message shows even
> > greater immaturity than the original message did.
> 
> Once again if you claim to have been in alt.ascii-art as a Regular
> User/Reader for 5 years then you could not possibly have missed the
> _several_ postings from Veronica on how to handle Casso, his Stein
> Wars, or his excessive behaviour.

Have you ever noticed, Colin, that you are the only person who ever
calls them `Stein Wars'? And have you, just possibly, ever noticed that
you are the only one (apart from Casso himself, of course) who actually
/participates/ in these so-called `Stein Wars'?

>...
> ObAscii:
> 
>      Oriental Spinning Machine
>...
>                                      <))===))>          -Achille Hui-

[Sigh]

The reason I suggested the `ObAscii' in the first place was to
discourage flame wars. The idea was that by the time you had gone to the
trouble of drawing a picture of your own, you would (1) be actually
contributing a picture to the group, and (2) calm down a lot. (It worked
for me, anyway -- you should have seen the first draft of this message.
:-)

Posting someone /else/'s picture really defeats the purpose of the
ObAscii, because (1) it's been posted before, and (2) it doesn't take as
long to do, so you don't calm down.

It would be really nice, Colin, if you followed up on what you wrote on
September 5:
>...
> Agreed, but I'm considering stopping diddling altogether and posting 
> only my own original material ( if that is truly possible ).  
> Pictures in my collection that I have already diddled I will 
> probably retain and sometimes repost.
>...

I wait with bated breath for your original pictures, Colin.

Meanwhile, here's my ObAscii -- an original picture, of course. I call
it, `On seeing another episode of the Punch Douthwaite and Judy Casso
Show'.

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And no, it's not a picture of me, just a picture of how I'm feeling.

T00dle-p1p ...
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