X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,c26adcecd2e286e5,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public From: Veronica Karlsson Subject: The Big Hat Discussion Date: 1997/08/30 Message-ID: <34082B51.2781E494@nospam.sm.luth.se> X-Deja-AN: 269070709 Organization: Junk e-mail gladly reported (I have got credit for chucking several spammers out of their accounts) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Quoted from a series of letters between myself and llizard (and please don't kill me for this llizard!): The Big Hat Discussion ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [Quoted: llizard, Unquoted: VK] Wide hats are also nice... :) > But fly off when bicycling. :^D Not mine: ___ ' ` | | |_______|_____ (but I had to look in ten shops before I found one that didn't feel like it was sitting somewhere on top of my head instead of _around_ it...) >Does "_around_ it" mean too large or too small? Most hats I find a way >to large for my head and I can't see. > > _-'-_ > / \ > | | > _______|_______|________ > \_O_/ >ejm97 __) (__ > / +++ \ > I have a big head and most hats sort of sit on top of it with nothing holding them in place, easy victims for the wind... :( __ __|__|__ / \ | o o | | __ | \____/ >:^D Alternative pictures in version 2.0 of the same letter: I have a big head and most hats sort of sit on top of it, with nothing holding them there and protecting them from the wind.... .-----. ___|_______|___ .' `. / \ | | | | | | | | \ / `. .' `-.._..-' >:^D I can't tell which version I think is funnier. A good hat should get down far enough to fit _around_ the head: _.-"""-._ .' `. / \ | | ___|_______________|___ | | | | | | \ / `. .' `-.._..-' >Quite right. I had the perfect wide brimmed straw hat that I was wearing >one day last summer when there was an unexpected deluge of rain. It >shrank when it dried and now it pinches my forehead and leaves a mark >when I jam it on my head. I, of course, have not found the perfect hat >to replace it and so continue to wear it. :^D I have a hat like that, but I found that I have an old saucepan which is just a little bit wider than my head so I wet the hat and forced it to dry on the saucepan. It worked =) _..--.._ .' `. ( ) ( hat ) |`--..__..--'|\) `--..__..--' | | | | | | | .-------.__| saucepan | ()-------. `-------' `--..__..--' \________`. That saucepan is now no longer a saucepan but a hat size improvement tool. >That's a great idea. I will search the saucepan drawer and see if there >is a potential hat size improvement tool. (I was lucky - I only have one saucepan... well, HAD one saucepan, right now I don't have a saucepan so I borrow one from somebody else when I need one... :D ) >:^D Only one saucepan!! And now no saucepan except a borrowed >saucepan!!! You'll starve. I live in a "student corridor" remember, twelve students, one kitchen... >Ai yai yai. I'd forgotten. You'll starve for sure! :^D Parallell thread: > >Wide hats are also nice... :) > > But fly off when bicycling. :^D > Not mine: ___ ' ` | | |_______|_____ > Oh *that* kind of wide hat. I thought you meant: > ___ > ' ` > | | > __________|_______|___________ > They are nice too, but not to use on bike > > I have one like yours too that I pin a handkerchief to the back so it > looks like a Foreign Legion hat. > > ___ > ' ` > | | > |_______|_____ > | | > || | > || | > || | > ||_| > :D I used to have one with mosquito net: ___ ' ` | | |_______|_____ |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxx| >How excellent! I should look into getting one of those. :^D I just tried to use it as a "hair clip"... _____ ' ` | | _| | /' _\________|_____ / '|| `` ` _| || || ` ` <@ \ | ||| ( .' ||||| ` _| | ||`` | | || \ -' |||| | | || | |_____| || |/ \ | || \ || | /' / / /' ' That way there should be no risk of it falling off.... :D >But what if the hat is so securely fastened to your hair that it pulls >your hair out in a high wind? :^D No, what wold happen would be that the front part tries to fly away but is stopped by the back part and the whole thing would just flop over my head.... :D > But what if the wind was so strong that the front part gets flipped back > and tears the hair out of your head? :^D no, all it would do would be to tear the hat away from the head... :D >along with your hair if the wind was very very strong: > _______ > ' ` > \ \ / > _\ \ / > /' _\__________\/ > / '\\ > \\ \\ ` ` ``` > \ \\\ ` ` ``` ` > \ \\\\ ` ` `` ` ~| > \ \\ `` ` ` ` <@ \ > \ \\ ` ` ( .' > \\\\) `` ` _| > \\ \ ```` (_ > \\ ) \ -' > )) | | > | | > > > > ` ` ``` > ` ` ``` ` > ` ` `` ` ~| > `` ` ` ` <@ \ > ` ` ( .' _ | > `` ` _| / \ \ / | > ```` (_ \_/ \/\/ | > \ -' . > | | > | | > > > ha >^^^^%--- ha > " \ ha > > I actually attach a barette to > > _____ > ' ` > | | > _| | > this part---> /' _\________|_____ > / '|| `` ` _| > || || ` ` <@ \ > | ||| ( .' > ||||| ` _| > > because my hair, even though it is very long, doesn't hold the hat on > well enough in the wind. (not enough hair?) ??? There is a hole at the back of those things and I pull my hair through that.... (well, actually I open the clip and then shut it again around the hair) >Yes I do the same thing but in a high wind, the hat just slips down my >hair. If I attach a metal barette to the clip part and fasten it to my >hair, then the hat stays fixed to my head. It isn't "tied" to the hair in any way.... If the hair has thickness 1 unit then the opening that it goes through is about 3 units big... > Yes I do the same thing but in a high wind, the hat just slips down my > hair. :D I suspect the same thing would happen to me, but at least it would slide down to somewhere near me, not fly away across the road or into a ditch or something... > Before I started fastening mine with a barette, I had one slide down my > hair and then fly in the wind across the road and under the wheel (dirty) > of a car before I could rescue it. ok, then that method wouldn't work for me either ..... but it feels nice, and it keeps my hair out of the way... =) >:^) More parallellism: > If I attach a metal barette to the clip part and fasten it to my > hair, then the hat stays fixed to my head. I haven't done that :D [what is a "metal barette"?] > Maybe you call it a slide? ????? (picture?) >back view of head: > > _-|-_ > /|||||\ > ||||||||| <---hair > ||||||||| > \|||||/ > \|||/ > ejm97 [___] <---barette > /|||\ > //|||\\ > ///|||\\\ > ((( ))) ))) yes, I got that part, but what does it look like (details)? and how did you get that to stick to the hat? >Sorry, I thought you didn't recognize the word "barette". I hook it into >the loop of the hat. > > _____ > ' ` > | | > __| | >barette goes here--> [___]________|_____ > / '|| `` ` _| > || || ` ` <@ \ > >back of hat: > _____ > ' ` > | | > | _____ | > |_|=====|_| > > > _____ > ' ` > | | > | ____/\ | > |_|===/ /_| <--- barette gets attached to the strap at the back > \/ and hair. a bit of both really (and the little square doesn't really explain any more than I had already guessed...) Does it look something like this? _.-\\ (`-._ _.-' .-'| `-._`------' _.-' / __ `-------'.-' .' (\_\_ _.-' .-' \(_ `-----' _.-' `-------' >Yes. (Well done. I gave up trying to make that very thing.) > _.-\\ > (`-._ _.-' .-'| > `-._`------' _.-' / _____ > __ `-------'========= | > (\_\_ | _.-' .-' | | > \(_ `-----' _.-'_______| | > `-------' | > | | <---hat > | | > \__________________/ > >I had to do it upsidedown because I'm too lazy to turn your barette >around. Does that make it any clearer? Yes :D But doesn't that feel a bit uneven? >No, you can adjust the hat and/or barette. There is no rule that says a >barette has to be at right angles to the hair. What about the rule that says that it is uncomfortable when something is uneven... >:^D Is this an aesthetic or a physical judgement? Very physical! (I can't see the back of my neck but I can *feel* it and I go crazy if something feels uneven...) >:^D It can be adjusted so that it all fits. Did I say that you do not >put your hair through the loop of the hat? Only the barette is used to >hold the hat to the hair. hmmmm....???? > _____ > .-' '-. > | | > | _____ | > |__|===[__]_| > )|||||||||||| >/ )||||||||||| > /|||||||||||) >/ ||||||||||| > ||||||||||| > ||||||||||) > |||||||||) > ) ||||||) > / |||||| > )||||) > / )||| > / )|| > / )) > // > >No need to take all that extra time to gather hair together to put >through hole in hat. You can just jam the hat on your head and fasten >the barette to some of the hair on the back of your head. :D (didn't this whole thing start with the hair going through the loop?) > :^D Oh, didn't I mention that I find it incredibly uncomfortable to put > my hair through the loop and that's why I devised the barette method in > the first place? No, I don't think you did, :D (I think it is very comfortable, especially when I should have washed my hair yesterday and want a reason to keep wearing the hat indoors....) >:^D :) I'm bad! >It's supposed to be very good for the health of your hair to let it stay >oily.... >Sometimes, I'm bad too. It gets really scary if someone asks me if I >have just washed my hair because the comb lines are so visible. :^D Forking off again: > No need to take all that extra time to gather hair together to put > through hole in hat. You can just jam the hat on your head and fasten > the barette to some of the hair on the back of your head. hmmmm.... maybe..... but it would still be uneven.... > No, not so much that you notice. :^D I think I would probably notice.... :D >Then you are like the princess and the pea? > > ___________________________ >| * . . * .. | >|. ( . * *| >| * * * . | >|___________________________| > > ! _ _____ > |(@} sigh ! [03:01] > |(_/--________..| ========= > | ||:o::::::::::| | | > | ||::::::::::::| | | >ejm97 | | |_____| :P I WOULD notice! There is not twelve, and twelve more, mattresses between my head and my hat! :D >:^D [I hope that made sense] -- :) Veronica Karlsson ( e93-vkn@sm.luth.se http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/ )